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re: Tesla cuts owner's range by 80 miles with software update, asks for $4.5K to restore it

Posted on 7/27/22 at 12:46 am to
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28996 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 12:46 am to
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They want you stuck to the grid.
Unless you can make your own fuel, an EV is the only way to have a vehicle completely off the grid.
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9735 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 1:01 am to
I bet there is a lot missing from this story - sounds like a bunch of bs
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
5431 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 1:05 am to
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bet there is a lot missing from this story - sounds like a bunch of bs




I doubt it. I don't see what the problem is, the dude bought a 60, Tesla sold a brand new 60, just bc that car caught a technician sleeping sometime over its lifespan doesn't mean this dude's customer is entitled to it.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28996 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 1:26 am to
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I bet there is a lot missing from this story - sounds like a bunch of bs
I don't think it's BS, but it's also not some intentional "ransom" type deal. Sounds more like an error was "resolved", but the unfortunate result is a customer got screwed. Looks like they're going to make it right though:
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While I don't think it's ideal to need a huge social media push to get things accomplished, thanks to the momentum this thread has generated it seems like we've got a path forward with Tesla towards getting this taken care of the right way.


And for the record I hate, with a passion, this practice of crippling products via software that is infecting many industries. But as it turns out, the economics work out such that it's cheaper to build products the same and set pricing levels via artificial limitations. So who am I to argue with the perfection of capitalism?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
46552 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 3:40 am to
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Have fun being Elon’s drone baw. You’re stuck to the grid. Enjoy!

And you’re not?

Every car has software installed. They are all governed by computers and will all be connected to the grid. That is inescapable.
Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
17169 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 5:22 am to
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Car is sold twice since, and now has a new owner (my customer). It says 90, badged 90, has 90-type range.


I bet the title on the vehicle he purchased said 60.

It does not matter if the sales ad says 90. It does not matter if the badging on the car says 90. It does not matter if the range equals a 90.

What does your car title say sir?

Which is why he will lose this case unless Tesla just wants to be nice.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
44313 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 5:25 am to
BigWilly prefers his 1970s death trap
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9853 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 5:26 am to
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Unless you can make your own fuel, an EV is the only way to have a vehicle completely off the grid.

I don’t think you know what “off grid” means if you are driving around in an EV.

Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 5:29 am to
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People who buy EVs are morons.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
44313 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 5:30 am to
I have two teslas and an old 1990s truck. I'm covered if there's an EMP attack.

How much you dropping on gas each month?
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
15893 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 5:51 am to
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Imagine a fully electrified auto world with OTA network connected vehicles the next time a government mandated lockdown is issued.



The most astute observation in this thread. It's coming someday to, many of us may not live to see it but it is coming
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
129965 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 5:57 am to
It's a subscription service now.
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10479 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 6:06 am to
This is the future of automobiles. Micro transactions are the worst, but coming soon. I saw BMW will now require a subscription to use the heated seats. (Beta rollout in Korea I think, not US. Yet)
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
83306 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 6:16 am to
A world of micro transactions

"Your car has heated seats, but pay us 14.99/mo to turn them on"

Posted by DeltaTigerDelta
Member since Jan 2017
12726 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 6:21 am to
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A world of micro transactions


for those with micropeens who will pay without ever questioning.
Posted by SpqrTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
9472 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 6:24 am to
This is why governments want so badly to go to electric vehicles and trains as the staples of personal movement.

The power to limit, tax, and if necessary, eliminate your movement is something they all greatly covet.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
52351 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 6:40 am to
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I don’t think you know what “off grid” means if you are driving around in an EV


He means you can generate your own power realistically.

WTF does “ they want to keep you on the grid” even mean in the context of ICE vs EV? What functional difference of dependency on the larger network between gas and superchargers.
This post was edited on 7/27/22 at 9:39 am
Posted by CincinnatiTiger
Cincinnati, OH
Member since May 2010
904 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 7:11 am to
Dipshit owner 3 got a bank error in his favor, prob upwards of $25k.

Because his cell phone didn’t work hands free he let them access which showed them the mistake and it cost him. Fool.
This post was edited on 7/27/22 at 7:12 am
Posted by Bayoubengal85
Kenner
Member since Sep 2005
310 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 7:23 am to
So if someone swapped a 5.0 V8 in a mustang, sold it to someone else who then took it to ford for service, you'd be okay with Ford swapping the engine or otherwise messing with it without telling the owner because the car wasn't sold that way originally? We cant upgrade things we own anymore?
Posted by CuyahogaTigerJr
Northeast ohio
Member since Aug 2018
2317 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 7:29 am to
Dude wtf… and I thought I was pissed when I discovered my car was leaking gas this week, only cost me $1,400 Only! Ha, well better than leaking $4.50 gas all over town.
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