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re: Tesla Asking Owners to Limit Charging During Texas Heatwave to Relieve Power Grid
Posted on 5/22/22 at 11:22 am to joshnorris14
Posted on 5/22/22 at 11:22 am to joshnorris14
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My costs for charging per KwH are $0.07 during peak hours and $0.03 during off-peak hours.
Post a pic of your last bill. I have just a little doubt you are paying $.07 during peak times.
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Posted on 5/22/22 at 11:23 am to tlsu15
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As someone who has lived in TX for the last 7 years, the state really needs to get their shite together when it comes to power.
“Freedom” ain’t gonna get you far if your electric grid constantly shits the bed.
Did you have any outages last weekend?
As someone who lived in Texas longer which would include many more summers saying “electric grid constantly shits the bed” is a hyperbole even by OT standards.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 11:23 am to Napoleon
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Yet the US doesn't build new plants anymore.
There are people lined up to build them, but can’t find a place where they can get a project going before they get buried in litigation by all the NIMBY locals.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 11:37 am to Sao
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'll tell you what should be the lead. It's that Abbott and Perry have watched this state grow by 8.25M from 2000 - 2020 and have done nothing to ensure the providers are doing all they can to keep our lights on.
Prove they didn’t try. I’m sure liberal ilk such as yourself stymied them and anyone else who even mentioned expanding electrical capacity- especially if it wasn’t your vaunted wind or solar based. Blame the environmentalists before you cast stones at either politician.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 11:47 am to upgrayedd
quote:You conveniently ignore that along with that every time I include charging during off-peak hours. Like most things, electricity prices should change with supply and demand, and in some places they do.
Paging Korkstand.
He assured me the current grid can easily handle 100% ev's
We have the capacity.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 11:51 am to STEVED00
I think we should REWARD those paying taxes for road infrastructure because of their use of gasoline and diesel and PUNISH those using electric vehicles on roadways without paying taxes for road use.
A yearly ROAD USE TAX could be added to every electric vehicle to help them curb their habits.
Sound stupid to you? Because yours does to me.
A yearly ROAD USE TAX could be added to every electric vehicle to help them curb their habits.
Sound stupid to you? Because yours does to me.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:02 pm to SPEEDY
Stop shutting down nuclear plants. Maintain and upgrade the ones you have and they can last another 20, 40, 80....even 100 years. It is cheaper to maintain and upgrade them than to build a new one, or even bring entirely new infrastructure, like wind and solar, online.
Here's a wild and crazy idea, continue to run the shite you have while you implement and bring new energy production methods online. Don't put all your eggs in one energy basket, particularly ones that are still mostly unproven just so you can say you're doing something.
Here's a wild and crazy idea, continue to run the shite you have while you implement and bring new energy production methods online. Don't put all your eggs in one energy basket, particularly ones that are still mostly unproven just so you can say you're doing something.
This post was edited on 5/22/22 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:04 pm to SPEEDY
NOTE TO SELF: Invest in giant Hamster Wheels
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:07 pm to Liberator
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NOTE TO SELF: Invest in giant Hamster Wheels
And breed giant hamsters.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:10 pm to kywildcatfanone
An off grid solar setup is probably easier and less temperamental.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:15 pm to Korkstand
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Like most things, electricity prices should change with supply and demand, and in some places they do.
What if the "peak" electricity demands are never addressed with the necessary upgrades to begin with? Should the public be forced to accept power interruptions, rationing, and complete shut downs as the rule?
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We have the capacity.
Ya think? Since when has the USA NOT been a FIRST WORLD NATION??
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:58 pm to Dr RC
quote:Yup.
Our population has exploded in the last 30 years (17m in '90 to 29m now) and the various power companies have done a mediocre job keeping up w/the needed expansion. Nothing more, nothing less.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 12:59 pm to Sao
quote:Believe it or not, the TX governor has no authority to force electric generators to add capacity nor build new plants. And it's not like federal permitting headaches make it any easier.
It's that Abbott and Perry have watched this state grow by 8.25M from 2000 - 2020 and have done nothing to ensure the providers are doing all they can to keep our lights on.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 1:02 pm to SPEEDY
TBF: Tesla didn’t ask them. The grid operator did. Tesla just passed on the message.
It’s like me reading a news article or an weather alert pop up on my phone and describe it as something “the apple” told me.
It’s like me reading a news article or an weather alert pop up on my phone and describe it as something “the apple” told me.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 1:03 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
quote:And that was the problem. The TX grid doesn't handle out of season temperature swings well. They got caught with a lot of generation off line, at the same time higher than normal temps occurred.
it's not even june...
Posted on 5/22/22 at 1:22 pm to Sao
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I'll tell you what should be the lead. It's that Abbott and Perry have watched this state grow by 8.25M from 2000 - 2020 and have done nothing to ensure the providers are doing all they can to keep our lights on.
Blaming Abbott and Perry seems like such a Beta move. Democrats really want to win governor’s race to push another Covid emergency just in time to implement loose rules for 2024 elections with emergency powers of Governor (Texas Governor not usually as powerful).
Lights didn’t go off anywhere around us that weekend. Also news break - asking to conserve doesn’t mean lights went off.
According to one news site ERCOT has asked some of Texas or all of Texas to conserve 14 times starting back from 2012 (article just listed months but warnings aren’t for entire month & closer to this past weekend of one day or two), and I can only remember the Feb of 2021 winter storm causing true grid issues around us.
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We scrubbed through ERCOT press releases dating back to 2012 to see how many times the agency has asked some or all of Texas to conserve energy. At least 13 instances came up:
June 2021
February 2021
August 2019
September 2019
October 2016
October 2015
August 2015
July 2015
June 2015
October 2014
March 2014
February 2014
June 2012
https://www.kxan.com/news/texas/ercot-asking-texans-to-conserve-energy-this-weekend/
I haven’t read a cost analysis on winterizing facilities to handle a 7 to 10 day winter storm that rarely happens along with what increases consumers would face, but one thing ERCOT did do in past was run tight margins at times and then sell excess or release rights to purchase electricity from other grids right before unexpected increases in demand or decreases in supply occurred that threatened to temporarily eat up their planned margin.
6 facilities went offline temporarily on Friday right when temps started to feel more like beginning of summer and then ERCOT asked customers to conserve during peak hours on Saturday and Sunday by turning AC up and not running washers and dryers and so on. It really didn’t seem like a big deal, and it wasn’t mandatory. I would like to know how things went that weekend with power margins (like did it ever come close to automatic rotating brownouts anywhere in state), what happened at the 6 facilities that went offline that Friday, and what is being done by new leadership put in place after Feb 2021 winter storm to stop whatever caused the 6 facilities to go offline from happening during July and August.
Reforms can sometimes do more harm than good, but these are some of the changes that happened after Feb 2021.
https://comptroller.texas.gov/economy/fiscal-notes/2021/oct/winter-storm-reform.php
This post was edited on 5/22/22 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 5/22/22 at 1:27 pm to STEVED00
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You don’t think Joe Anybody would think twice about setting his AC at 68 if it meant he would charged out the arse to do it? If you want people to conservative energy then reward those who do and penalize those who don’t. People have the mentality that they aren’t do it Bc so and so isn’t doing it. Well incentivize/penalize people to conserve energy.
First and foremost, you’re absolutely correct, but your argument entails far too much logic and rationale. Apply that same logic and rationale to the welfare state and the generational dependence upon the government for a particular segment of society. Your life and career would be in disarray for stating the blatantly obvious, yet the drain on the nation’s power grid is infinitesimal as to the drain on American society.
They, the Democrats, used actual living, breathing human beings as their political pawns to further their agenda why would you or anyone else believe they aren’t using the environment just the same?
Posted on 5/22/22 at 1:46 pm to STEVED00
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I’m sorry if you have to sleep under a down comforter in the summer Bc your house is 68 deg then you are doing something wrong.
frick you
Posted on 5/22/22 at 1:47 pm to STEVED00
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You don’t think Joe Anybody would think twice about setting his AC at 68 if it meant he would charged out the arse to do it? If you want people to conservative energy then reward those who do and penalize those who don’t. People have the mentality that they aren’t do it Bc so and so isn’t doing it. Well incentivize/penalize people to conserve energy.
I fricking hate liberals
Posted on 5/22/22 at 1:53 pm to SPEEDY
Yeah that road trip gonna be fun, sit around for hours waiting to recharge at an "economical, environmentally friendly" time. 
Idiots. Forcing us on to a grid that can;t handle the demand.
Idiots. Forcing us on to a grid that can;t handle the demand. 
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