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Teen in stolen car outside Gentilly restaurant shot by vehicle's owner; owner jailed

Posted on 10/2/19 at 6:36 am
Posted by BowDownToLSU
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
21868 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 6:36 am
A teenager sitting in a stolen car parked outside a restaurant in Gentilly late Monday was confronted by the vehicle’s owner and shot in the chest, according to New Orleans police.

Terrance Johnson, 45, faces a count of aggravated second-degree battery in the shooting of the 17-year-old youth, who remained hospitalized Tuesday.

It was not clear whether New Orleans police would book the teenager with a crime, such as illegal possession of a stolen auto. But the St. Bernard Parish Sheriff's Office issued a statement saying he was wanted on a count of vehicle burglary and theft of a firearm following a series of car break-ins in Arabi a few hours before he was shot. According to police, surveillance video from the Waffle House in the 4600 block of Old Gentilly Road showed Johnson walking across the restaurant’s parking lot to his car. He pulled out a pistol and began arguing with the 17-year-old, who got out of the car, police said Johnson and the boy then began fighting outside the vehicle, and the boy was shot in the right side of his chest. Johnson waited until police arrived and was ultimately booked.

Paramedics took the teen to the hospital. His condition wasn’t available Tuesday. Damn
Posted by BowDownToLSU
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
21868 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 6:37 am to
Asked to analyze the case, defense attorney Craig Mordock said there are laws in Louisiana which allow people to use deadly force against anyone intruding on their personal property. But, based on the details in court records, those laws don’t appear to apply in this case because the teenager who was shot had been in the car at a time when Johnson was not in it.

Mordock said Johnson should have called police and given them a chance to recover the vehicle for him.

“The law doesn’t allow you to just shoot someone" for being in your car, he said.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
135032 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 6:38 am to
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“The law doesn’t allow you to just shoot someone" for being in your car, he said.



Sounds like a shitty law. Don’t steal someone’s car and you won’t get shot.
Posted by WylieTiger
Member since Nov 2006
14795 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 6:39 am to
It should.
Posted by BigDroop
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jun 2008
681 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 6:41 am to
quote:


Mordock said Johnson should have called police and given them a chance to recover the vehicle for him.

“The law doesn’t allow you to just shoot someone" for being in your car, he said.




Sounds like he got shot while fighting the owner outside the vehicle, not for sitting in it.
This post was edited on 10/2/19 at 6:52 am
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
30617 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 6:43 am to
quote:

The law doesn’t allow you to just shoot someone" for being in your car, he said.



That's dumb. If somebody steals my car, I'm not going to make accommodations for their well being in recovering it.
Posted by SpqrTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
9772 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 6:43 am to
There SHOULD not be a jury in America that would convict the shooter in this case. I sure as hell wouldn’t.

But you just never know these days.
Posted by BowDownToLSU
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
21868 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 6:44 am to
quote:

Sounds like he got shot while fighting the owner outside the vehicle, not sitting in it.
maybe scared for his life. A thug stealing your car probably wouldn’t have a problem killing you also imo
Posted by BigDroop
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jun 2008
681 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 6:45 am to
Oh i agree 100%, I was commenting on what the lawyer saidin second post. Should have quoted that i guess
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
75933 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 6:48 am to
quote:

given them a chance to recover the vehicle for him


might as well hand over the tax, title, and registration to the thief. You ain’t ever getting that vehicle back.

Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
135032 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 6:50 am to
quote:

That's dumb. If somebody steals my car, I'm not going to make accommodations for their well being in recovering it.


The way I see it, when you steal someone’s property, especially their vehicle (which they need for their livelihood) you are stealing little bits of their life.

We sacrifice our time (I.e., our lives) to acquire our property. The time I spend working to afford my property is time I don’t have with my family, my kids, doing things i like to do. But I do them so I can have nice things. You sacrifice a lot of your time to afford big purchases. Therefore when you try to take away my conveyance, which I need to maintain my family’s livelihood, you are taking bits of my life. And all bets are off.

Play stupid games and all that
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29911 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 7:01 am to
Thugs shouldn't have to worry about getting shot every time they steal a car. What is this world coming to?
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
23348 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 7:05 am to
Should have called the police and reported a lose dog in the Waffle House parking lot. Cops would have been there quickly.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
20396 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 7:10 am to
This is bullshite. He didn’t shoot the kid while he was sitting in the car. He shot him after they got in a fight. A police officer would have likely shot the kid in the same circumstances.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25961 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 7:12 am to
quote:

17-year-old youth

quote:

He pulled out a pistol and began arguing with the 17-year-old, who got out of the car, police said Johnson and the boy then began fighting outside the vehicle, and the boy was shot in the right side of his chest


Article is clearly trying to paint the car thief as a victim rather than a neutral or antagonistic party.

"Youth" is an accurate assessment, but "boy" likely isn't.
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
16070 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 7:13 am to
I understand using a weapon when one's life is endangered and the shooter's wasn't. However, the logic stated for why charging doesn't make a lick of sense
This post was edited on 10/2/19 at 7:15 am
Posted by MBclass83
Member since Oct 2010
10391 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 7:13 am to
You might think twice about stealing a car when this happens.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
105168 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 7:13 am to
Considering that the police are under no obligation to show up, and in some areas like Monroe are notorious for not wanting to show up and handle property crimes regardless of whether you can lead them straight to the perp and the item, this is a problem.

This is a case that screams for jury nullification.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
105168 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 7:15 am to
The yout got shot when keepin it real went wrong?
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7925 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 7:24 am to
quote:

A police officer would have definitely shot the kid in the same circumstances.



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