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re: Teen in Las Vegas who wasn’t on the search warrant shot at SWAT and was killed
Posted on 1/30/22 at 1:55 pm to The People
Posted on 1/30/22 at 1:55 pm to The People
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Comply or die. It’s that simple.
If he wasn’t the target of the search warrant, he would have been mildly inconvenienced for less than an hour during detainment.
Instead he choose to end his own life.
Wasn't he sleeping when dudes busted in? Not sure he could process exactly what was going on other than he needs to survive? I don't know.
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Posted on 1/30/22 at 1:56 pm to ShortShorts
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How does he know they are police? It’s not unheard of for thugs to bang on a door, yell “police” and rob someone.
True and I don't even know if he had time to even process that. Not sure he even heard them.
Posted on 1/30/22 at 1:57 pm to Byrdybyrd05
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Sorry, I didn’t know there was a thread on this already. I just saw the video and my first time reading about what happened.
If you didn't read the thread you probably would have had a hard time searching for it anyway.
TD tOT
Posted on 1/30/22 at 1:57 pm to Byrdybyrd05
I’m as big a pro-police guy as there is and these raids need to stop.
There is 0 reason to bust in a residence when it can be surrounded and monitored for the perp to surrender.
The days of needing a raid so that evidence isn’t flushed down a toilet are long gone.
Stop this shite.
There is 0 reason to bust in a residence when it can be surrounded and monitored for the perp to surrender.
The days of needing a raid so that evidence isn’t flushed down a toilet are long gone.
Stop this shite.
Posted on 1/30/22 at 1:58 pm to beauchristopher
Did somebody really just say comply or die in a serious manner lol? Has to be a troll because that term is indefensible anywhere outside of North Korea
This post was edited on 1/30/22 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 1/30/22 at 2:02 pm to Obtuse1
Thanks for searching the thread for me
Posted on 1/30/22 at 2:02 pm to Meauxjeaux
So the perp can take hostages and murder anyone inside? That doesn’t seem to be a good plan either if you ask me.
The point of a raid is so that hopefully no one gets injured but you propose letting them potentially hurt anyone inside or scheme up a plan to fire back by bomb or gunfire.
While agree that they should at least confirm the suspect is in the building before raiding, I’m not against a raid.
The point of a raid is so that hopefully no one gets injured but you propose letting them potentially hurt anyone inside or scheme up a plan to fire back by bomb or gunfire.
While agree that they should at least confirm the suspect is in the building before raiding, I’m not against a raid.
Posted on 1/30/22 at 2:13 pm to Byrdybyrd05
Skid Row apartment just about anywhere, a Cop should expect to be shot at on a warrant pick up, knock or no knock.. Cowboys and Indians in the Projects.
You shoot at a Cop, you're going to get whacked.
You shoot at a Cop, you're going to get whacked.
Posted on 1/30/22 at 2:14 pm to rowbear1922
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once they decided to go in and the victim shot, it was fully within their right to fire back.
Negative, you have the right to resist unlawful arrest in this country no matter how much the government and media try to down play it.
Raids like this are dumb, but what do you expect when you are dealing with the kind of people that go into being police. It would make so much more sense to grab the RIGHT person outside of their residence OR to get 100% confirmation where he is if he is holed up in some apartment.
The government should be held to a higher standard than citizens when it comes to use of force. Cops have access to many different tools to subdue a suspect and use of a firearm by a cop should be an exceedingly rare event.
Judges signing of search warrants is a joke these days, they sign all kinds of crap that doesn't pass the smell test. They know what judges will rubber stamp their requests so they can go play Rambo against the people of this country.
I am not sorry, the police in this country have gotten out of hand, it goes along with the government getting out of hand, they are one in the same. Remember, the police protect and serve..... the government.
Posted on 1/30/22 at 2:19 pm to armsdealer
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Negative, you have the right to resist unlawful arrest in this country no matter how much the government and media try to down play it.
Raids like this are dumb, but what do you expect when you are dealing with the kind of people that go into being police. It would make so much more sense to grab the RIGHT person outside of their residence OR to get 100% confirmation where he is if he is holed up in some apartment.
The government should be held to a higher standard than citizens when it comes to use of force. Cops have access to many different tools to subdue a suspect and use of a firearm by a cop should be an exceedingly rare event.
Judges signing of search warrants is a joke these days, they sign all kinds of crap that doesn't pass the smell test. They know what judges will rubber stamp their requests so they can go play Rambo against the people of this country. I am not sorry, the police in this country have gotten out of hand, it goes along with the government getting out of hand, they are one in the same. Remember, the police protect and serve..... the government.
As stated earlier, I do agree that could be better ways to handle it, but since they decided to go in and the victim shot first, yes, it’s within the polices right to fire back.
I fully agree that they need to at the very least do survalliance to ensure the suspect is in the building, but that isn’t a requirement at this time so can’t prosecute or sue the Vegas police for this incident. Change the laws and let’s see if it works any better
Posted on 1/30/22 at 2:20 pm to The People
I’m sure this is a troll, but I’ll bite anyway. Middle of the night bust down your door and chaos ensues. You’ll be cognizant enough to decide these are the “good” guys? I’m not sure I’d be able to quickly determine they are.
Posted on 1/30/22 at 2:40 pm to rowbear1922
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Only problem with that is it a no knock warrant?
I don’t have an issue with no knock warrants for a murder suspect.
Now drugs on the other hand…
Posted on 1/30/22 at 2:42 pm to armsdealer
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The government should be held to a higher standard than citizens when it comes to use of force. Cops have access to many different tools to subdue a suspect and use of a firearm by a cop should be an exceedingly rare event.
It is.
But keep on with your narrative.
Posted on 1/30/22 at 3:09 pm to rowbear1922
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So the perp can take hostages and murder anyone inside?
Hostage situation is the ONE situation where you should use a SWAT team.
Anything else, camp out around the corner and wait for the suspect to come out.
Posted on 1/30/22 at 3:13 pm to The People
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Comply or die. It’s that simple.
I thought one of the main points of the 2nd amendment was for citizens to be able to protect themselves against government tyranny.
Government officials breaking down your door at 3 am when you've done nothing wrong sounds like the definition of tyranny imo.
Posted on 1/30/22 at 3:34 pm to QJenk
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Government officials breaking down your door at 3 am when you've done nothing wrong sounds like the definition of tyranny imo.
Law of two competing harms.
The governments interest to remove killers living among all of us preying on the weak justifies the rare occasion to obtain a warrant for judicially approved entry.
Don’t lay with wolves and you have nothing to worry about.
The same people in this thread who cannot understand the logic behind the effort to capture a MURDER suspect and preserve evidence to ensure conviction are the same people complaining about escalating violent crimes. Same people that get manipulated by the woke media and believe that cops are systemically racists and target only people of color.
You don’t get it both ways.
In my opinion, breach and loud call is the preferred method. But I don’t have all the intel and neither does anyone else in this thread.
This post was edited on 1/30/22 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 1/30/22 at 3:39 pm to Byrdybyrd05
Live by the sword, die by the sword.
Posted on 1/30/22 at 3:42 pm to Byrdybyrd05
A lawful search is a lawful search. Good kill.
Posted on 1/30/22 at 3:58 pm to ShortShorts
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Them being in the wrong place would be a start…
And you know that, how?
Just because he wasn't at that location AT THAT TIME doesn't necessarily mean it was an erroneous location. You ever make a run to the store for milk and bread? Fill up your car? Does that make the address you're residing at at the time erroneous?
Posted on 1/30/22 at 4:07 pm to Topwater Trout
Seems in your case just anyone can crash into your house in the middle of the night. The point is no knock warrants are dangerous to all involved.
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