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re: Teamsters' UPS Trainwreck Incoming
Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:01 am to WB Davis
Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:01 am to WB Davis
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Teamsters say they will shut down UPS on August 1 without a new agreement. Per CNN, a 10-day strike could cost the economy $7.1 Billion, the costliest stoppage in history. This will be like the Teamsters padlocking my work, too. Inbound parts shipments will stop and the added stress on alternate shippers (USPS, FedEx, etc.) will make things really ugly. Anybody preparing for this at work?
I’m of the belief that they won’t go on strike. Last one was 97 and it was crippling to the US. That type of volume can’t be shifted to other carriers.
FedEx has been prepping customers for about six months now basically saying if you don’t shift prior to the strike they won’t have capacity to take on new business after August 1st.
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Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:15 am to Cosmo
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People want to make 100k a year with great benefits for driving a UPS truck
UPS is the high school grad dream job. A buddy of mine methed his way out of there. He was making $21 an hour in the warehouse when he started. That was early 2000’s so it was good money. He ended up getting a route and making more.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 9:05 am to Bunk Moreland
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I've said this in a few threads on the poliboard, but I'm surprised by this strike because I heard from a friend who used to represent a Teamsters pension fund that Teamsters want to bury the massive freight carrier [img]Holland/YRC and move that work to UPS and Amazon.[/img]
Huh? UPS is a parcel company. YRC is LTL. If YRC goes out of business none of that volume moves to UPS.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 9:08 am to Shunface
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I’m of the belief that they won’t go on strike. Last one was 97 and it was crippling to the US. That type of volume can’t be shifted to other carriers.
Yep and the consumer relied on parcel shipments MUCH less in '97. Imagine today. I would almost say that UPS has a dual threat here... a) they need to give in to the Union and b) they need to fix this before the government steps in and says they are too big and every citizen relies on them too much. Although I doubt that our politicians may care about part B.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 9:13 am to WB Davis
why are we linking CNN? 0 credibility.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 9:25 am to nolanola
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Huh? UPS is a parcel company. YRC is LTL. If YRC goes out of business none of that volume moves to UPS.
It’s a politard post, what do you expect? All they can do is think in half baked conspiracies
Posted on 7/15/23 at 9:28 am to Modern
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So pull out the entire US??
Nope, not every state protects unions.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 9:30 am to Corinthians420
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while we're at it we should get rid of the middle class.
That’s what the Democrats (the group the unions donate to overwhelmingly) want to do.
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Unions need good leadership just like everything else. Bad union leaders doesn't mean we should get rid of them altogether.
They had their purpose, and now they create lazy workers.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 9:32 am to Martini
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Yeah not only do you not know collective bargaining you don’t know basic business principles. Jesus.
What do you mean? Because I do not want to deal with the thuggery of unions anymore implies I lack basic economic competence? Lol
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Jimmy Hoffa son just finished his last term as President of the Teamsters. You want to be a Union buster I’d like to watch.
I bet you support him don’t you.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 9:38 am to Shunface
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FedEx has been prepping customers for about six months now basically saying if you don’t shift prior to the strike they won’t have capacity to take on new business after August 1st.
The local fed ex sales rep, whom I’ve never even met in 20 years of doing business, has been in my office three times in the last month. He’s trying to strong arm me into paying to be priority customer. He keeps telling me if we don’t pay up they won’t be able to guarantee we’ll be prioritized and no guarantee they’ll pick up our shipments after Aug 1st.
I didn’t care for the aggressive sales tactics and told him I’d find another shipping company as needed if he couldn’t help us. I’ll take my arse down to USPS and ship stuff rather than frick with that a-hole
Posted on 7/15/23 at 10:10 am to WB Davis
Meanwhile, Amazon quietly keeps getting more trucks and drivers on the road, and may one day put UPS out of business, then those union employees will be working for Bezos for half their current pay. The elite wealthy will always win.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 10:16 am to WB Davis
The economic infrastructure that we grew up with is dissolving. The US grows more third worldish by the day.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 10:52 am to WB Davis
We need Ronald Reagan.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:10 am to Kraut Dawg
[img]Being a UPS driver may suck, but it's their choice. Generally, they're the shoulders down type & couldn't make near the same money elsewhere. Couldn't have their family in nice homes in nice areas. Their benefits like health ins & retirement are fantastic.
It sucks they work in the heat. It sucks they can't take days off. It sucks they work until 9pm. But their union cries about seasonal drivers because the union loses their OT pay.
UPS is a great company to work for, either corporate or union. But it sucks to work for them too. Drivers should make a choice to leave. You know why they don't? Because they chose to be unskilled, overpaid laborers. [/img]
Dumb opinion. Threads like this reminds me of the overall IQ of this website.
UPS use to only hire from a college campus. Was a time most of your UPS drivers had college degrees. It took awhile to become a driver, UPS paid for their schooling, decent money and benefits for young adults, even as part time workers.
I find it hard to respect anyone’s opinion on this website if they cannot tell the difference between a UPS driver and the rest of our delivery drivers. My UPS guy, no matter where I’ve lived, is a part of my community, a trusted friend, that always goes above and beyond. (Fed Ex puts CLOSED on our packages until they feel like delivering it to my HOUSE….in a subdivision.)
No one mentions the profits that UPS has made. A google search shows they made 13.1 Billion in 2022. Yet, I feel awful for my guy when he is delivering packages to my house at 9:30pm in the middle of June.
“Unskilled, over paid laborers.” Unskilled comment. They deserve 200k a year to do that shite!
It sucks they work in the heat. It sucks they can't take days off. It sucks they work until 9pm. But their union cries about seasonal drivers because the union loses their OT pay.
UPS is a great company to work for, either corporate or union. But it sucks to work for them too. Drivers should make a choice to leave. You know why they don't? Because they chose to be unskilled, overpaid laborers. [/img]
Dumb opinion. Threads like this reminds me of the overall IQ of this website.
UPS use to only hire from a college campus. Was a time most of your UPS drivers had college degrees. It took awhile to become a driver, UPS paid for their schooling, decent money and benefits for young adults, even as part time workers.
I find it hard to respect anyone’s opinion on this website if they cannot tell the difference between a UPS driver and the rest of our delivery drivers. My UPS guy, no matter where I’ve lived, is a part of my community, a trusted friend, that always goes above and beyond. (Fed Ex puts CLOSED on our packages until they feel like delivering it to my HOUSE….in a subdivision.)
No one mentions the profits that UPS has made. A google search shows they made 13.1 Billion in 2022. Yet, I feel awful for my guy when he is delivering packages to my house at 9:30pm in the middle of June.
“Unskilled, over paid laborers.” Unskilled comment. They deserve 200k a year to do that shite!
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:16 am to CR4090
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The middle class doesn't need the unions anymore. It's not the 50's.
haha have you seen the numbers on corporate profits vs wage growth since unions were busted up and now only 11% of the workforce has one compared to 30+% in the 50s/60s?
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:18 am to Corinthians420
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haha have you seen the numbers on corporate profits vs wage growth since unions were busted up and now only 11% of the workforce has one compared to 30+% in the 50s/60s?
frick off.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:22 am to Corinthians420
I can't believe that anyone who can rationally analyze things doesn't understand why workers need collective bargaining. I know there is a ton of propaganda funded by corporations against unions but I didn't think anyone actually believed it.
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EPI estimates employers spend $433 million per year on union-avoidance consultants. This work is well compensated—consultants report being paid $350-plus hourly rates or $2,500-plus daily rates for their work to defeat union organizing efforts. This estimate is just a drop in the bucket because there is not enough data to reveal the true scope of what employers spend.
This post was edited on 7/15/23 at 11:24 am
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:27 am to Brotorious
This post was edited on 8/21/23 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:29 am to cuyahoga tiger
Same
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:41 am to Corinthians420
Your little self-entitled a-hole makes things more expensive for everyone. So again, frick off.
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