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Teacher Turnover East Baton Rouge - Hire 10, Lose 7 in First 5 years

Posted on 3/31/25 at 3:51 pm
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
20806 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 3:51 pm
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For every ten teachers hired, only three are still teaching in East Baton Rouge Parish public schools five years later.

Annually, nearly a quarter of the teachers leave the school system, according to data from a consulting firm hired by the school district. That compares with 15% annual teacher turnover across Louisiana and 16% nationwide.


https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/education/report-unsustainable-teacher-turnover-in-baton-rouge/article_f0b29b6a-cee0-465e-be89-c03218d8e20d.html

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Recruiting, hiring and training teachers is expensive. SSA estimated those costs are as much as $25,000 per teacher for a large urban district like this one. Since July 2024, the East Baton Rouge school system has hired more than 600 educators, but lost about 400 who have resigned or retired.




Posted by heatom2
At the plant, baw.
Member since Nov 2010
13092 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 3:53 pm to
Thats them badass children.
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 3:54 pm to
Need to hire more male teachers. I’d even support paying men more than women for the same to attract them to the job. First of all, our children need more male role models in their lives and second, all female dominate industries suffer with high turnover because women tend to quite and have babies at some point.
Posted by rpg37
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Sep 2008
54583 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 3:54 pm to
Sadly, this is not unique to just Baton Rouge. Over 50% of teachers quit the profession within three years overall nationwide.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 3:56 pm to
70% turnover in any profession is non-essential, but in teaching it's near fatal due to not being able to hire nearly enough to keep up with retention.
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
20806 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 3:59 pm to
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Sadly, this is not unique to just Baton Rouge. Over 50% of teachers quit the profession within three years overall nationwide.


They worded the article in a strange way by comparing a 3 year rate to the yearly national rate.

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Annually, nearly a quarter of the teachers leave the school system, according to data from a consulting firm hired by the school district. That compares with 15% annual teacher turnover across Louisiana and 16% nationwide.





This post was edited on 3/31/25 at 4:04 pm
Posted by AlextheBodacious
Member since Oct 2020
3917 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 4:01 pm to
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Thats them badass children.

This coupled with having to live in BR.
Posted by rpg37
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Sep 2008
54583 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 4:02 pm to
Turnover is a tricky term. Are they including retirement as well?
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
11140 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 4:05 pm to
I wouldn't teach or be a cop anywhere in a city like Baton Rouge. Way too much personal liability exposure for me. The weak leaders created this problem, let them spend some time on the streets and in the classroom so they can show us how it should be done
Posted by theliontamer
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
2019 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 4:07 pm to
Honestly can't come up with a number for what it would cost for me to want to be a teacher. Seems like a dead end low paying job. The profession probably needs to be revolutionized. Didnt they already make these kids learn from a computer during covid? May as well cut out the middle man and make it full blown daycare with computer learning.
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
19966 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 4:09 pm to
Gotta be able to actually discipline the students

Also, you wanna keep teachers, pay them more.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
39523 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 4:10 pm to
You’d quit too if you had to put up with EBR public school kids every day
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
25733 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 4:10 pm to
Looks like Google tells me EBR teachers start at $47k
Posted by BasilFawlty
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2014
1315 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 4:14 pm to
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children need more male role models in their lives

My BA is in education. As a male, every one of my college instructors / professors was thrilled to have me in the program.
Even back in the '80s they were concerned about the lack of men in the classroom.
Nowadays you'd have to be concerned that one of your male teachers might be some purple-haired twink.
Posted by rpg37
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Sep 2008
54583 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 4:18 pm to
When I was getting my Specialist in college for school admin, I recall a stat that 84% of teachers nationwide were white women and 93% of teachers were women in general. Education has been a long-considered female job. But, generally, we still associate the principal as male and a few male HS teachers who were also coaches.

The problem in education today is not the pay. I swear it's not. I taught for 12 years and was making good money on a schedule you knew would never change. Had a part time job and coaching gig and was around $100k before leaving Oxford a few years ago. The issue is behavior. While it's always been there, schools enforce discipline less and less and less. There are almost no consequences for students. Schools don't want to suspend kids because a) it's normally black kids and they get sanctioned if one demographic it too high and b) funding - schools get money based on attendance.
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
20806 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 4:18 pm to
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Looks like Google tells me EBR teachers start at $47k


For only 9 months of work per year
$47k/9 months is $5,200 per month

$5,200 a month x 12 months would be $62,000 if they worked year round.

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The higher range of teacher salaries in Louisiana is between $70,000 and $80,000 per year. Teachers with extended experience, unique expertise, or supplementary certifications can earn significantly more. Teachers with advanced degrees, such as a master’s or doctorate may earn salaries higher than the state or national average.

Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70043 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 4:22 pm to
I would think LP and AP are getting better applicants than EBR.
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
20806 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 4:25 pm to
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I would think LP and AP are getting better applicants than EBR.


They start in EBR and instantly start working on transferring to those parishes.



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Within Ascension Parish Public Schools, 94.2% of teachers are licensed.

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The percentage of uncertified teachers was 54% in Orleans Parish schools, versus 12.5% statewide
This post was edited on 3/31/25 at 4:29 pm
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
10806 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 4:25 pm to
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While it's always been there, schools enforce discipline less and less and less.


I believe it. The kids aren’t disciplined at home or at school. It’s a recipe for societal collapse.
Posted by tickfawtiger
Killian LA
Member since Sep 2005
11526 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 4:30 pm to
Since the de-seg BLUNDERS of the 70's there seems like there is only ONE true PURPOSE of the EBR school system...installing highly compensated administratators and consultants ! Teachers, staff and STUDENTS are seen as inconvienient nusances..all while the 'system' continues to spiral out of control ! How anyone with school aged kids would voluntarily move into this cluster^&$# of a school system, is beyond me !
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