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re: Teacher fired for not referring to transgender student in their preferred term

Posted on 12/7/18 at 4:01 pm to
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 4:01 pm to
There is no doubt the he/she/it/shim is a drama queen and I think the whole trans movement is moronic bullshite.

But the teacher publicly announced his refusal to use the pronouns, when he could've just ignored the whole situation and not even called on or referred to the kid.

Two drama queens generally don't make a situation better. But it looks like he got the attention he wanted (they both did)
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 4:03 pm to
and if he had done it privately and still been fired?

Or perhaps the principal and superintendent are the real drama queens by making this policy instead of doing their jobs and telling the freak to shut the frick and go to class?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36497 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 4:16 pm to
You won't find many people more against the trans bullshite than me.

However, if I were the teacher, that kid would've become a ghost to me and basically cease to exist. I would have the bare minimum of interactions and always refer to it by it's last name.

In fact, I would likely refer to all kids by their last names, which is safer in this era.

Teachers have 20 plus kids in a class, and many of them are basically ignored anyway. Ignoring a kid shouldn't raise any flags.

This is assuming I am a teacher and I want to keep my job and don't want a bunch of publicity.
Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 4:33 pm to
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And don't ask to be called Ze or They or anything else made-up.


Can baw be a preferred pronoun?
Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 4:35 pm to
We really need to let a dude rip Serena a new one in a major tournament and watch the SJW classifications kill eachother
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Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 4:36 pm to
Answer.... pull your kids out of that hellacious public indoctrination shite and let it burn.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 4:37 pm to
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Go sit next to John" "Class, what should we as Jane about..." See how easy that is? What is so hard about showing respect and referring to individuals as they prefer?


Uh, you were asking situations about when a teacher would use pronouns. They’re a part of common English language.
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 4:38 pm to
Our building manager at work has a 7 year old dwarf kid......him and his beta wife have supported and actively encouraged their kid to identify as a female.

This kid gonna be fricked up down the road.

FWIW, Jewish Democrats
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 4:39 pm to
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terminated French teacher Peter Vlaming over his refusal to call a female-to-male transgender student by their preferred pronoun, according to a statement.

The French don't have non-sex pronouns for the third person.
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 4:41 pm to
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I fricking hate this planet and I want off. Since that’s not possible


Oh it's possible.

Someone wants to be called bitch, I'll call them bitch. Why do I care?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46666 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 4:43 pm to
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"Go sit next to John" "Class, what should we as Jane about..." See how easy that is? What is so hard about showing respect and referring to individuals as they prefer?



I prefer you refer to me as "Your Royal Majesty." See how fricking stupid that sounds?

Almost as stupid as referring to a biological female as "he".

Almost.
Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 4:43 pm to
Are my grandkids gonna ask their mom why Grandpa uses gender specific pronouns and is their mom gonna reply “he’s from a different time”?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
91568 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 4:48 pm to
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Uh, you were asking situations about when a teacher would use pronouns. They’re a part of common English language.





He's also the French teacher. They are learning basics, like pronouns and what makes words masculine or feminine.
Posted by DLauw
SWLA
Member since Sep 2011
6195 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 5:14 pm to
That’s just crazy men aspiring to be crazier women.
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 5:30 pm to
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If it's a public school, there are still free speech issues


I think all this PC stuff is a crock of shite. That being said, in my opinion it's a policy issue from which the superintendent was bound by and forced to terminate based on insubordination. This is not a free speech violation.

For instance, if a police cadet is instructed to address his superior by his rank and title but refuses to do so, he would be insubordinate and subject to disciplinary action.
Posted by smoked hog
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2006
1895 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 6:15 pm to
I'm a teacher that had a M-F trans in class for a bit. Personally I think that shite is gross and weird. Professionally I used the name Katelynn. Teachers shouldn't have moral, religious or political leanings in class.
Posted by ProbyOne
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2004
1947 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 6:19 pm to
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For instance, if a police cadet is instructed to address his superior by his rank and title but refuses to do so, he would be insubordinate and subject to disciplinary action.


Not quite the same as using "he" instead of "she"
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
82340 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 6:21 pm to
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You predicted this exact scenario 846 years ago


Wasn't that exact. He just said something about those who scream at the sky and demand that others follow their delusions.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30565 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 6:22 pm to
A few years ago, we were told all ‘they’ wanted was bathrooms.

Then we were told all that girl in Texas wanted was to become a dude and wrestle with them.

It’s funny...three major equality movements: racial, feminist, and trans.

I think blacks and whites, for the most part, can be realistic and not petty. Even the femenistt movement seems to have some limits. But these other people...they are sick in the fricking head and are causing non-stop headaches for people who want to live in a civilized, somewhat normal, society.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 6:29 pm to
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For instance, if a police cadet is instructed to address his superior by his rank and title but refuses to do so, he would be insubordinate and subject to disciplinary action.


Yeah but there is a limit. For instance, a cadet can't be instructed to pray to Allah or face insubordination. That would violate his first amendment rights, no different than this situation violates the teacher's.

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