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Teacher diagnosed with breast cancer told to pay for substitute while on medical leave

Posted on 5/9/19 at 10:34 pm
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 10:34 pm


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A teacher in San Francisco who was diagnosed with breast cancer was told she has to foot the bill for the substitute who will fill in for her while she’s on medical leave.

The second-grade teacher, who was not identified by KGO, works at Glen Park Elementary school.

She is on leave through the end of the school year, the San Francisco Chronicle reported


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Normally teachers get 10 sick days a year, but can take 100 days of medical leave. That leave comes at a cost directly from the regular teacher’s paycheck, KGO reported.

A substitute’s salary runs from $174.66 to $240.26 a day, the Chronicle reported.

The payments are required by state law, according to the Chronicle. That’s because California teachers don’t participate in the state’s disability insurance program. Since 1976, teachers can have five months of leave due to illness or injury with full pay, minus the cost of the substitute.


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This post was edited on 5/9/19 at 10:43 pm
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76518 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 10:36 pm to
If I run out of sick days, I dont get paid either.

That's how this works.

Hopefully she has AFLAC or similar.

ETA: She probably even MAKES money on the deal if making more than a sub costs (which I assume she does).

This post was edited on 5/9/19 at 10:41 pm
Posted by PortHudsonPlaya
Houston
Member since Jul 2017
3170 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 10:39 pm to
She should learn to code.
Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
16195 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 10:41 pm to
I get nothing for every day I don’t work.

I have no paid days off.
I have no sick days.

Why don’t they write a story about every self employed person in America who have less PTO than this lady?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
35304 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 10:47 pm to
I would just quit and find another job once I was well enough.
Posted by LSU6262
Member since Jun 2008
7491 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 10:50 pm to
Posted by CaptainJ47
Gonzales
Member since Nov 2007
7342 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 11:44 pm to
With all of the protectionist shite California does this cracks me up. But good thing they are saving the green winged hornet wasp or some other random arse animal. Still can’t figure out why they have a homeless problem.
Posted by PurpleFin
Member since Apr 2017
91 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 12:58 am to
I don’t think it’s about her not getting paid but the fact she has to come out of pocket for a sub.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 1:02 am to
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I get nothing for every day I don’t work.

I have no paid days off.
I have no sick days.

Why don’t they write a story about every self employed person in America who have less PTO than this lady?
Posted by nolatiger711
Metairie, LA
Member since Oct 2009
767 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 1:08 am to
There was a Catholic high school for girls in New Orleans that required the teacher that took maternity leave to pay the sub whatever the school decided to offer the sub. The school encouraged teachers to only have kids during summer break. More than 3/4’s that had a kid during the school year faced a hostile environment. Eventually, one had enough because the school tried to force her back from her 8 week leave early. They said if she didn’t come back she would be considered quitting and fined $5k plus costs of any subs since it was the middle of the school year (fine stated in contract). She and school lawyered up. Then the archdiocese got involved and placed a district wide maternity policy to stop what had been happening at the school.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84784 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 1:10 am to
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Teacher diagnosed with breast cancer told to pay for substitute while on medical leav


Teacher gets 100 days of paid medical leave. That's all this is, which is pretty solid.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84784 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 1:11 am to
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I don’t think it’s about her not getting paid but the fact she has to come out of pocket for a sub.


Is she coming out of pocket? Sounds like they just deduct the price of a sub from her paid leave. That's surely still a net positive for her.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84784 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 1:15 am to
quote:

Right now, teachers get 10 sick days per year. Then they can take medical leave for 100 days. 

During that entire time, the cost of a substitute teacher is taken out of the paycheck. 

If more time is needed, teachers can take from a Catastrophic Sick Leave Bank-- donated by other teachers, for 85 days. No extra money is taken out of that pool.


Breast cancer notwithstanding, this lady has a much better compensation package for medical leave than the vast majority of Americans.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Member since Aug 2004
45113 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 3:38 am to
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Breast cancer notwithstanding, this lady has a much better compensation package for medical leave than the vast majority of Americans.


How can they force her to pay for her replacement? I have never heard of a job where if you miss time For any reason much less a legitimate one where the employ has to pay the compensation for their replacement while they are out.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Member since May 2013
65628 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 4:01 am to
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I don’t think it’s about her not getting paid but the fact she has to come out of pocket for a sub.
I agree that this angle is why the story is getting some traction.

The teacher signed a contract with the School Board that guaranteed her services would be provided filling a teaching spot for the School Board for the entire academic year.

Through no fault of the School Board (because sadly she developed a medical issue), SHE herself cannot be present to teach and must now abide by the contract* to supply a qualified replacement to supply her missing services.

The optics are not great on this to someone who has no idea of basic contract law but it’s Life in the Big City 101. It’s Click Bait.

Sounds like Disability Insurance would have been a good call on her part.

*One can only imagine how a California Teachers Union contract could read. I guarantee it is more teacher-friendly than the contracts presently in force in many other US States.
Posted by skidry
Member since Jul 2009
3261 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 4:02 am to
quote:

The payments are required by state law, according to the Chronicle. That’s because California teachers don’t participate in the state’s disability insurance program. Since 1976, teachers can have five months of leave due to illness or injury with full pay, minus the cost of the substitute.


Is anyone capable of reading anymore.
This post was edited on 5/10/19 at 4:03 am
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71035 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 6:08 am to
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I don’t think it’s about her not getting paid but the fact she has to come out of pocket for a sub.


And the fact that the prog utopia isn't taking care of an employee with a serious, potentially fatal, and objectively provable illness.
Posted by tankyank13
NOLA
Member since Nov 2012
7721 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 6:12 am to
Has anyone asked for pic of said breasteses? I can only see her back
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 6:15 am to
I saw this story last night and its WAYYYYYY misleading.

To simplify:

Teacher gets $100 a day while on sick leave
The school district takes $75 of this to pay the sub
The teacher gets the rest for being on sick leave

The above applies after the teacher exhausts her initial 10 days of sick leave and is applicable for 100 additional days of sick leave.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37491 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 6:18 am to
Serious question, if it wasn’t breast cancer but rather a broken leg, a punctured lung, or any number of ailments, would this have even made news?
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