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re: Teacher certification in Louisiana

Posted on 12/21/25 at 12:49 pm to
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
7623 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 12:49 pm to
The public school model of government education Has Failed.

It is time to admit this and move on.

Shut all this wasteful shite down and liquidate it.

All schools should be private and/or religious.

If you want an education for your child you should have to pay for it.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
27857 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 1:11 pm to
Private schools do not require the certification.
Posted by tigerbacon
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2010
4499 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 1:27 pm to
Teachers at private and charter schools don’t have to be certified.
Posted by ChEgrad
Member since Nov 2012
3777 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 3:52 pm to
Certification doesn’t make you a good teacher.

Is this person a poor teacher?
Posted by tigergirl10
Member since Jul 2019
10683 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 4:21 pm to
Depends on the program they’re in. They should at least have a PL license and be enrolled in an alt certification program. You can check their status online through the state’s teacher lookup database.

Praxis II and PLT should be passed in some subject area at least. You can teach SPED and not be certified in it, just have an add on.
Posted by tigergirl10
Member since Jul 2019
10683 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 4:23 pm to
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underperforming shitty teachers.
Look at the lazy arse students and often absentee parents first!
Posted by Mung
Ba’on Rooj
Member since Aug 2007
9168 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 5:29 pm to
Exactly the opposite: whitey fleeing to private and religious schools has destroyed public education. All to avoid having your precious chirren going to school with brown children. Time to close down private schools, and force everyone to go to school together.
Posted by Mung
Ba’on Rooj
Member since Aug 2007
9168 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 5:33 pm to
Nor do private schools have to educate special Ed kids. They pick and choose their students, and send the difficult kids to public schools, which have no choice. Shut them down!
Posted by deltadummy
Member since Mar 2025
1618 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 5:49 pm to
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If standards = required degrees and x # hrs of additional coursework paid by the teacher each year, then I’m ok with lowering the standards to let more try. Just make it easier to get rid of underperforming shitty teachers.


Care to explain how one identifies underperforming teachers? With all the examples of wonderful hs students that get posted here, how are my ex and all the other teachers supposed to be judged as to their "performance" as a teacher? A one day snapshot of Billy or Jerome's ability to take a test?




Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
17666 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 6:13 pm to
Damn buncha ratards
Posted by faraway
Member since Nov 2022
3568 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 7:13 pm to
if you're certified, there's plenty of demand in better school districts.
Posted by adavis
North of I-10
Member since Aug 2007
5946 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:15 pm to
Teacher Certification Search

You can type in her name in this search and it will tell you her certifications and her progress toward certification. Other than knowing her status, it's like others have said-there is a teacher shortage so they have to plug in the people they have available.
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
38369 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:39 pm to
This is what happens when teachers aren’t paid enough and treated like shite at every turn. They get burnt out and want to do other things while districts are stuck having to take whoever they can get.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13520 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:52 pm to
bullshite. You're a public school shill. Plenty of rich kids (in your definition is probably someone that doesn't work an hourly job) are rated as SPED in one way or another. Anxiety, ADD, ADHD, lack of socialization, inability to use safety scissors by the time they kid (K?) They get all of it.

Public schools get extra funding for every SPED student they have of any level. They are forced to buy extra TAs for every kid rated SPED in any way, but that gets them the extra money. Which means public schools want to qualify as many kids as SPED as possible for the money. This creates obligations for TAs, counselors, etc., but none of you give a shite, because you got more money (along with increased expense.)

You public school teachers and admins have fought against any standard to measure your efficacy for more than 50 years, because most of you would have been fired. You created this through a lack of accountability.

Licensing rules are the reason chemical engineers for 30 years for Dow can't teach high school chemistry without an 18 month unpaid re-education curriculum (they ended up teaching for Blinn/A&M for a decade). Yet almost no new teacher out of any elementary ed class can apply the semester of classroom management they got which "qualifies" them to teach kids, along with all the other useless shite they get taught. When volunteering at the STEM center for elementary, it was obvious which teachers sucked, and still had jobs, versus those that understood how to act like the lead dog in a pack. But all were "certified."
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
38369 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 9:28 pm to
I don’t disagree with the entirety of your post but I’ll push back a bit on the following point.

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Public schools get extra funding for every SPED student they have of any level. They are forced to buy extra TAs for every kid rated SPED in any way, but that gets them the extra money. Which means public schools want to qualify as many kids as SPED as possible for the money. This creates obligations for TAs, counselors, etc., but none of you give a shite, because you got more money (along with increased expense.)


The requirement for extra staff is more of a burden than anything. I don’t know all the particulars but I don’t doubt we get extra money for sped students to help cover their “needs” (half of the kids I interact with that qualify for sped have no business having an IEP) including hiring paras. That said, we have way less paras in my school than we “need” because we don’t have enough money to cover it. There’s always a couple holes in classes where there should be a para but there isn't because of a lack of staff.
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Licensing rules are the reason chemical engineers for 30 years for Dow can't teach high school chemistry without an 18 month unpaid re-education curriculum
also this isn’t true currently (it may have been true at the time that situation happened I’m not disputing that). A lot of states offer alternate route certification where you can still teach as long as you can pass the praxis. In Kansas I taught for a year while I was taking the education classes I didn’t have in my undergrad on a “restricted” license until I finished. All I had to do was pass the math praxis and provide proof I was making progress to finishing the certification after each term. I’m almost certain Louisiana has something similar. I looked into it at one point but that was about 8 years ago so that may be different now.

ETA: just read back through the entire thread. Just want to go on record that I definitely do not agree with Mung either. Both systems have their place. With the amount of money we waste as a country on absolutely retarded shite like Ukraine and whoever else we send gobs of money to, rerouting that money to things like actually making sure there’s qualified people in place to educate children and they’re supported/taken care of as long as they’re meeting professional standards seems like it should be more of a priority.

Don’t get me wrong. The whole system needs an overhaul it’ll never get (including the ridiculous sped processes that happen). It’s beyond just throwing money at it at this point. But it won’t get better without making sure qualified people are in place to make those changes either.
This post was edited on 12/21/25 at 9:40 pm
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13520 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 10:10 pm to
I'm largely in agreement with you.

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The requirement for extra staff is more of a burden than anything. I don’t know all the particulars but I don’t doubt we get extra money for sped students to help cover their “needs” (half of the kids I interact with that qualify for sped have no business having an IEP) including hiring paras. That said, we have way less paras in my school than we “need” because we don’t have enough money to cover it.

I know it's more of a burden. But every school district (in Texas at least) pushes it as "we get more 'free money.'" The incentives to waste money would cause a financial internal auditor to vomit up findings. But it's not "their" money, it's "free" money from FedGov.

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also this isn’t true currently (it may have been true at the time that situation happened I’m not disputing that). A lot of states offer alternate route certification where you can still teach as long as you can pass the praxis

Entirely possible, but when I graduated (as an adult learner, in Adult Ed, in 2000-2005) I couldn't teach anything about computers without not getting paid for over a year because of qualification requirements, even though I'd trained people for over a decade. I hope it's changed, but it was clearly not designed to get effective, knowledgeable people on the job, it was to preserve the education pipeline out of Louisiana and Texas universities to produce education grads. It boggles the mind, because especially for STEM, does anyone want someone that hasn't taken a physics class since high school teaching physics?

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rerouting that money to things like actually making sure there’s qualified people in place to educate children and they’re supported/taken care of as long as they’re meeting professional standards

No foreign country should get aid as long as we have needs at home. The solution is always more money. Look at the explosion of administrator/classroom personnel in the last 15 years. (Ted Kennedy wrote NCLB, GWB signed it)

However, I went to most of my childhood schools in Department of Defense schools. Our funding was about 1/3 of what public schools got at the times in the 80s. I remember horror stories about evil senators saying parents should be able to provide paper and pencils for their kids ( I didn't mention a party for a reason.) However, nearly every kid on base went to college. Why? Parents were reported to command if their kids weren't turning in homework, so the 24 year old enlisted kid couldn't hide from the consequences of not having his kid be good in class. Race didn't matter, income didn't matter, it's that the kids were held accountable by parents.

We've all heard the term "helicopter parents," but I heard a better term recently, " concierge parents." There is no obstacle parents won't try to fix to avoid discomfort for Ashlyyin and Jaiyden.
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
38369 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 11:37 pm to
One of the best pieces of advice I’ve ever been given from a colleague was in my first year after a rough email from a parent. They were chewing me out for something silly and I went to our department chair to try and ask her how to handle it. First words out of her mouth were “well Pedro, at least they care.” There’s still obviously situations where the parent needs to chill but I’d much rather those situations than the ones that couldn’t care less.
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
7623 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:27 am to
Your logic is flawed and racist.

In my post I never mentioned anything about race.

Harvard was originally founded to train new ministers.
Posted by BrohemAlem11
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
13336 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:46 am to
I work in behavioral therapy for kids with autism.... what youre seeing here is panic. Sped teachers especially in autism rooms quit like crazy so schools end up spending the rest of the year looking for a warm body to throw in there.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20723 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:04 am to
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The public school model of government education Has Failed.


Public education built this country. It has its problems, for sure, but focusing on those problems doesn't mean that public education is a failure.
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