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re: T or F, we'd be better off if we hadn't shut down and went about life with no change

Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:59 pm to
Posted by Woobie
Member since Jan 2017
3366 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:59 pm to
this is my mask

there are many masks but this one is mine

without me my mask im nothing

without my mask youll die
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
51733 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:01 pm to
False despite what the baws on the OT think. The areas with the highest density would be supremely fricked and the hospitals would get overrun. Places like NYC would look exactly like Italy and the more rural places while not overrun would still get hit harder. The question was always and still is when do we open back up and how do we get ready for a second wave
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
34837 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:01 pm to
True

Herd immunity is a real thing.. Ask Sweden...

The public could've been educated on mask, hand sanitizing and their own social distancing...

This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 5:09 pm
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
34837 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:07 pm to
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a lot of hospitals would have been overrun with cases,


Yet we were still overrun with cases...

I've never seen 30 ventilators operated, ever, at our facility...

We basically took a step down cardiac unit and turned it into an ICU. We took med/surge floors and turned them into covid units... It was crazy.

As of yesterday, we were down to our last Covid vent pt... and he may have been extubated today...
This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 5:12 pm
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
20267 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:10 pm to
Posted by Flavius Belisarius
Member since Feb 2016
990 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:12 pm to
quote:

false

a lot of hospitals would have been overrun with cases, the subsequent shutdowns would have been far more severe, and the economy would have taken an even more massive hit b/c of it.


There’s literally not one piece of data to back up this assertion. The models that predicted this were laughably, fantastically wrong. Now we are faced with the ironic result of hundreds of hospital systems and rural hospitals that are insolvent, thanks to this inane and emotion driven policy. The hospitals that were to be overrun are now out of business, so good job, I guess?

The correct answer to the question is ‘true’, btw.
Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
26451 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:13 pm to
Those who have been working will say we should have never shut down.

Those drawing $847 a week unemployment will say we should shut down and they hope we stay shut down as long as possible.

Open dis bitch up f’n idiots.
Posted by chateaublanc
Member since Apr 2020
1118 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:15 pm to
For the virus to go away, people have to get it. People really need to understand this
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:16 pm to
quote:

I think we're about to see a huge jump in cases.


At least you went ahead and got your vasectomy and Nintendo Switch before it all shut down.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71211 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:17 pm to
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except that masks were mandated for everyone in public places.


F$&k you.
This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 5:17 pm
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
6354 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:22 pm to
quote:

masks were mandated for everyone
I'm assuming you haven't see the videos of people falling in the streets in China. They all were wearing masks.
Posted by pellietigersaint
Tiger Stadium
Member since Aug 2005
19043 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:30 pm to
T or F questions cant be subjective
This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 5:31 pm
Posted by NakaTrash
Texas Hill Country
Member since Dec 2013
6139 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:35 pm to
quote:

I disagree. Warn the public, but let them make up their own minds. No shutdowns and no restrictions would have been the best policy.

Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
32130 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:36 pm to
Deaths would have likely been higher, but that's a subjective argument about how many deaths are you okay with so long as the economy doesn't tank.

Not sure where that line is, but I know under 100k deaths is a small amount for the damage this shut down has caused.

What SHOULD have happened, was anyone with underlying medical conditions (or age) that would make death a likely outcome if you caught the virus, stay home and quarantine as they are already doing now.

If you have no underlying medical conditions, you go on about your business. If you catch the virus, you get sick for a week or two, then go on about your business. You can't infect anyone who could die, because guess the frick what? They are at home.

The fear of catching the virus is what's driving this unnecessary insanity and it shouldn't be. Catching it means nothing more than a more uncomfortable flu. Shutting down the country for that is ridiculous.
Posted by Shiftyplus1
Marathon, FL
Member since Oct 2005
14750 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:36 pm to
True.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
12337 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:37 pm to
No required masks. A whopping .3% of the population got sick. Do you think that justifies ANY restriction much less the draconian restrictions placed on us from ALL levels of goverment.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
14344 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:41 pm to
quote:

For the virus to go away, people have to get it. People really need to understand this



I actually agree with this since it appears that a vaccine won't be here anytime soon. I guess what I was wondering with the question is whether masks (while loathed by most people) would have done enough to keep the infection numbers down so that we could have just carried on.
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9735 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:41 pm to
Maybe we are all dead and just don't realize it yet. Maybe this is hell.
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:43 pm to
I think everything has been done pretty good but now we need to open back up. There was good reason to be scared but now we have a better understanding of what we are dealing with. Open back up the old people know it's dangerous. There has been some great research done because of this and a lot of good will come out of it because of the rush to research.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
19320 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:45 pm to
The numbers are the numbers, influenza pneumonia SCORE BOARD!
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