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re: Synthetic rubber plant in crosshairs amid high cancer risk in Reserve, Louisiana community
Posted on 5/5/23 at 8:20 am to Jimbeaux
Posted on 5/5/23 at 8:20 am to Jimbeaux
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What I am saying is to Doubt All Claims of Truth Based On Modern Scientific Data, or simply because your Government says that something is true.
I'm not taking advice from anyone who thinks this resembles proper capitalization rules.
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Posted on 5/5/23 at 8:20 am to tiggerthetooth
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what amounts of benzene is risk drastically increased? Are they getting lung cancer? And fat people have higher rates of cancer as well as cardiovascular disease.
I would be willing to bet that living in and constantly inhaling small “safe” amounts over 30-40 years would increase your risk.
Also inhaling benzene doesn’t just give you lung cancer. There’s a litany of cancers that are known to be caused by it.
Posted on 5/5/23 at 8:28 am to Mr Poop
Not sure about Reserve specifically, but as has been pointed out a million times.
The cancer rates in "Cancer Alley" aren't abnormal once you account for poverty and demographics.
The cancer rates in "Cancer Alley" aren't abnormal once you account for poverty and demographics.
Posted on 5/5/23 at 8:36 am to Icansee4miles
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And as for EPA, the current leadership, in Dallas and DC are environmental activists and community organizers. Sound science has no place in this administration. Just another Federal agency weaponized by Biden and his handlers, sent to wage war on oil and gas (Obama had already largely taken care of coal).
It gets harder and harder to defend the EPA with every passing year.
It/they have recently lowered the thresholds within the clean air act. This makes the majority of large prescribed burns in our forests and grasslands have to be approved by the EPA. Before it was all handled by the Forestry Service in conjunction with wildland firefighters. Most prescribed burns now will exceed the threshold for the clean air act and will need special approval by the EPA which will move at a snail's pace and likely have a very low approval percentage for prescribed burns.
Because of this, our wildfire seasons WILL get worse and fighting those fires WILL get more difficult. Add in that the hiring and retention of wildland firefighters, and within the Forestry Service in general, is currently abysmal due to refusal to increase wages among other things, and we have a disaster looming.
ETA: The EPA has also banned the primary retardant used against wildfires due to runoff concerns. Those concerns may very well be valid. The issue is that the ban came before any viable or comparable alternatives for the retardant have been developed or approved. The ban literally removes one of the most effective tools firefighters have currently at their disposal for fighting fires without providing for an alternative.
This post was edited on 5/5/23 at 8:55 am
Posted on 5/5/23 at 8:42 am to Mr Poop
Denka certainly has, and has had, its issues over the years.
But lumping together the whole industry based on one plant is not sound logic.
But lumping together the whole industry based on one plant is not sound logic.
Posted on 5/5/23 at 9:03 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Yes. It’s like uranium, some people get super human powers while some get cancer. Haven’t y’all seen watchmen before?
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Oilfieldbiology
Hmm, appears the science has spoken
Posted on 5/5/23 at 9:07 am to Mr Poop
Denka is one of the most heavily monitored plants I've ever seen. They have a pretty robust perimeter air sampling program.
Posted on 5/5/23 at 9:08 am to Mr Poop
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According to the EPA, cancer risk in Reserve is about 50 times the national average. Reserve is located within an 85-mile stretch of Louisiana, between Baton Rouge and New Orleans, which contains more than 200 plants and refineries. The stretch is nicknamed "cancer alley" due to the high cancer rate in the region.
Are they sure it's the rubber plant and not the seafood diet?
A lot of pesticides and herbicides in agricultural runoff that finds its way down the river from the midwest. And Louisiana eats a LOT of seafood.
Posted on 5/5/23 at 9:10 am to Jimbeaux
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I don’t doubt that chemical plants can produce toxins that cause cancer, but the EPA is a den of lies whose minions are willing to create and use false data.
They are NOT a scientific organization anymore, if they ever were. They are one of the most powerful tools of the neo-marxist left that denounces objective truth and pushes false narratives for power.
I've been on an EPA audit where the EPA isn't even present. They hire contractors to do their work for them.
Posted on 5/5/23 at 9:19 am to Philzilla
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Petroleum products can cause cancer.
no doubt it can
but....i would be highly suspect of residents that do not work in the industry being exposed to any real level of any of that.
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Fat people usually have cardiovascular issues.
its also, along with lifestyle, one of the leading causes of cancer.
Posted on 5/5/23 at 9:27 am to lsu777
In the 1980's epidimolgical study showed a higher concentration of stomach cancer in south texas chem. plant operators. Much more study revealed BBQ diets were high in nitric oxides a known contributor
Posted on 5/5/23 at 9:31 am to Mr Poop
People in the river parishes think everything bad in their life is due to the plants in the area.
Posted on 5/5/23 at 9:31 am to Mr Poop
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Just outside Reserve - a town with a majority-Black population
These f ucking writers.
Posted on 5/5/23 at 9:39 am to drizztiger
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Marathon doing work.
Wrong plant. Denka (Old Dupont) Looks clean form the RR but is a cesspool. There's more injection wells there than even their employees know about.
Father in law used to bring drums of waste to Morgan City from Dupont in a cattle trailer, load them on a supply boat and take them 5 miles out and sink them with a 30-06. Dixie Cattle was the "shell" company "leasing" leasing the land from Dupont.
Posted on 5/5/23 at 9:43 am to Mr Poop
I'd love to see the benzene exposure from the plant vs the benzene exposure from pumping gas in their vehicle, lawnmower, etc.
People down here still use gasoline and other hydrocarbons to clean parts and remove grease from their hands.
I say this not to remove any responsibility from chem plants, but as an aside that there are other factors that need to be included
People down here still use gasoline and other hydrocarbons to clean parts and remove grease from their hands.
I say this not to remove any responsibility from chem plants, but as an aside that there are other factors that need to be included
Posted on 5/5/23 at 9:45 am to drizztiger
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Marathon doing work.
What an idiot. Show us you didn't read the article. Also show us you don't know Marathon's a refinery and not a synthetic rubber plant.
Posted on 5/5/23 at 9:48 am to Mr Poop
Cancer alley is nothing new
It’s also nothing fake
It’s also nothing fake
Posted on 5/5/23 at 11:59 am to Jimbeaux
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Can’t you see why the left is pushing neo-marxists into judicial roles?
You're a fricking idiot.
There is no "neo-marxist left" in substantial power ANYWHERE in the United States and if you say otherwise, it just proves that you don't know what you're talking about.
Posted on 5/5/23 at 12:01 pm to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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It’s also nothing fake
Yeah it actually is. When adjusting for demographics it’s perfectly normal
Posted on 5/5/23 at 12:05 pm to brass2mouth
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I would be willing to bet that living in and constantly inhaling small “safe” amounts over 30-40 years would increase your risk.
You're talking chronic risk vs acute risk.
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