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re: Supreme Court strikes down student loan forgiveness plan as unlawful
Posted on 6/30/23 at 12:42 pm to AubieinNC2009
Posted on 6/30/23 at 12:42 pm to AubieinNC2009
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PPP loans receiptiant were not attacked by their debt either
There shouldn’t have been PPP loans because we shouldn’t have shut everything down. Once politicians shut everything down, R and D, and forced people out of work, there was no choice but to do the loans, imo. Bad all around. Employees didn’t sign up for being forced out of work, college kids signed up for college and their loans
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 12:42 pm to Mushroom1968
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I’ve always felt left wing has fricked the common man much worse
It’s not even debatable.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 12:44 pm to TutHillTiger
Funny. This is the entire strategy for the Democratic Party….currently.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 12:46 pm to waiting4saturday
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Libs will bitch but this is good because it takes power from the executive branch.
Correction: it informs the executive that this decision is off limits to it and that the branch has never had such authority.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 12:47 pm to Seeker
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I think young adulthood is probably the toughest period in most peoples lives, so yea I think it sucks that many people are forced in life changing debt in order to try to be successful
Welcome to reality. Every young adult starts out struggling unless they come from wealth. This isn't some new phenomenon. In fact, society as a whole has been delaying this past "young" adulthood by living with their parents until they're 35 years old so they don't have to take on the everyday responsibilities of being an adult.
And nobody is forced to take the loan.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 12:48 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
It was all just a Democrat ploy to win the 2022 mid terms and as someone else noted, a platform issue for the ‘24 presidential election.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 12:50 pm to dawgfan24348
quote:Classic DemProgFilth with no understanding of anything.
Classic right wing frick the common man response. Forgiving student loans allows all those people to spend more money pumping it back into the economy.
In the midst of record setting inflation due to too much money and too few goods/services you want to just throw $trillions more on the fire. Kill the patient but save their liver!
Posted on 6/30/23 at 12:50 pm to TutHillTiger
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About a decade of this and there is no doubt California and the West Coast states will move to withdraw from the union
God willing.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 12:52 pm to Byron Bojangles III
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I don't want corporations to buy the government.
What about unions?
Do you oppose corporate taxes entirely?
Posted on 6/30/23 at 12:53 pm to Seeker
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Let’s be honest, who does the debt system benefit?
The people who don't have the money to pay out of pocket for college.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 12:54 pm to BROpaneTANK
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Just want to play devils advocate since I don’t really care either way. But what’s your stance on child tax credits or child dependents as write offs?
… I don’t remember this ever being a hot topic or making its way to the Supreme Court.
That’s an ignorant devil’s advocate play in regards to one being a Supreme Court issue of President not following law along with individuals not being held responsible for their choice to go in debt with student loans as the law requires and the other following the undisputed law with no reason for Supreme Court involvement.
No need to verify your negative tax burden claim as credits benefited families making less than 100,000 including those with student loans.
Why did you draw the line at 100,000 with 3 kids? You seem to be trying to make a particular argument thinking you have disguised it well as just playing devils advocate.
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Does that not classify as tax money being transferred from tax payers to people that chose to have children?
Only when creating a negative income tax just like EIC does as otherwise it’s people just keeping more of their earned income, but again one was enacted by congress and one was not.
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Only rule is you can’t cite benefit to the economy or the high cost of raising a child because having a child is a choice. The government, like with higher education, does not force one to have children.
limiting rules you know harm student loan forgiveness
And Just to be clear I get your limitations:
Going to college is a choice. Taking out student loans is a choice. The govt does not force or mandate going to college or going into debt.
Also not using 2021 tax credits or prior covid payments to make full principal payments on student loans was also a choice. Not using covid payments or credits to pay rent, mortgage, and other debt was also a choice.
If you want to compare negative income taxes created by tax credits to student loan forgiveness than just say so, but do so without a floor on income receiving negative income tax from credits.
But no I didn’t agree with 2021 child care credits in regards to being a good policy and don’t usually agree with credits that create a negative income tax rates within current tax system/structure for individuals/families (credits limiting taxes or making tax burden a zero are different), but they were enacted by Congress and signed into law. They didn’t apply to us in 2021 (and we were part of minority that paid federal income taxes in 2021), but I don’t think taking them was wrong as that was part of legal tax code available to all that qualified.
This post was edited on 6/30/23 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 6/30/23 at 12:54 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
Yet another decision that should've been 9-0.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 12:55 pm to Duke
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We paid off other debts that had interest. Put additional money in savings to expand the house someday. Lived the same lifestyle.
The people batching and moaning don't have homes and other debts besides maybe a car.
You're not the norm at all
Posted on 6/30/23 at 12:55 pm to Mushroom1968
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There shouldn’t have been PPP loans because we shouldn’t have shut everything down. Once politicians shut everything down, R and D, and forced people out of work, there was no choice but to do the loans, imo. Bad all around. Employees didn’t sign up for being forced out of work, college kids signed up for college and their loans
You break it, you buy it.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 12:57 pm to dawgfan24348
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Classic I got mine, frick you mentality.
Just when I think Progressives can't get anymore pathetic, you always top yourself.
We get it, the world owes you everything because you think a man can get pregnant. Sorry, sometimes you actually have to earn something. I know this is foreign to you and your ilk.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 12:57 pm to dawgfan24348
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Classic right wing frick the common man response. Forgiving student loans allows all those people to spend more money pumping it back into the economy.
So go do it through Congress like it's supposed to be done.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 12:59 pm to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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Yet another decision that should've been 9-0
Some judges just will always vote their party, rather than doing their constitutional duties of checks and balances.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 1:00 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
All of those liberal arts majors that can't make enough to pay off their student loans AND buy butt plugs are crying.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 1:12 pm to jose
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Classic left wing never take any responsibility response
Boom.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 1:19 pm to AubieinNC2009
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Student loan guidance and interest rates are passed by the legislature as well.
But the president is attempting to end around by forgiving massive amounts of loans.
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