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Study: using BMI is wrong, but not for the reason you think

Posted on 3/1/23 at 4:42 pm
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
18258 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 4:42 pm
Excess weight, obesity more deadly than previously believed

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Excess weight or obesity boosts risk of death by anywhere from 22% to 91%—significantly more than previously believed—while the mortality risk of being slightly underweight has likely been overestimated, according to new CU Boulder research.


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To see what happened when those nuances were considered, Masters mined the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES) from 1988 to 2015, looking at data from 17,784 people, including 4,468 deaths.

He discovered that a full 20% of the sample characterized as “healthy” weight had been in the overweight or obese category in the decade prior. When set apart, this group had a substantially worse health profile than those in the category whose weight had been stable.

Masters pointed out that a lifetime carrying excess weight can lead to illnesses that, paradoxically, lead to rapid weight loss. If BMI data is captured during this time, it can skew study results.

“I would argue that we have been artificially inflating the mortality risk in the low-BMI category by including those who had been high BMI and had just lost weight recently,” he said.

Meanwhile, 37% of those characterized as overweight and 60% of those with obese BMI had been at lower BMIs in the decade prior. Notably, those who had only recently gained weight had better health profiles.



Posted by MrWalkingMan
31st Parallel North
Member since Aug 2010
6304 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 4:44 pm to
But I’ve been told that the mortality risk is outweighed by the importance of the fat person’s feelings….What is this scientific devilry?
This post was edited on 3/1/23 at 4:45 pm
Posted by tigergirl10
Member since Jul 2019
10307 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 4:47 pm to
I refuse to be over a size 4.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
4237 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 4:47 pm to
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He discovered that a full 20% of the sample characterized as “healthy” weight had been in the overweight or obese category in the decade prior. When set apart, this group had a substantially worse health profile than those in the category whose weight had been stable. Masters pointed out that a lifetime carrying excess weight can lead to illnesses that, paradoxically, lead to rapid weight loss. If BMI data is captured during this time, it can skew study results.


Makes sense and a clever thought by that researcher. People sure are insightful.
Posted by fricket
Member since Aug 2019
825 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 4:49 pm to
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
12079 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 4:49 pm to
I figured it was because these two guys would have the same BMI…



Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120172 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 4:51 pm to
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I refuse to be over a size 40.


FIFY Walt
Posted by Turf Taint
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2021
6010 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 4:52 pm to
How many obese 80yo’s do you know?
I don’t know any. I do know some who are (were) long term boozers and some who are (were) long term smokers.

Obesity seems more deadly than smoking and drinking, per my life’s eyeballs.

Per study, now throw in the formerly long-term obese into this point.

Interesting.
Posted by Turf Taint
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2021
6010 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 4:53 pm to
Obesity…

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mortality risk is outweighed


That’s funny!
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
141660 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 4:58 pm to
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using BMI is wrong
bob dylan is an ascap, that's good enough for me
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
19192 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 5:02 pm to
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I refuse to be over a size 4.


Awful small for a man…
Posted by TigerIron
Member since Feb 2021
3024 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 5:04 pm to
This post was edited on 3/20/23 at 10:08 am
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
19192 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 5:04 pm to
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25556 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 5:47 pm to
quote:

Excess weight or obesity boosts risk of death by anywhere from 22% to 91%—significantly more than previously believed—while the mortality risk of being slightly underweight has likely been overestimated, according to new CU Boulder research.




Getting down to 20 is fricking ripped up for a dude.
Posted by HippieTiger
Boulder, CO
Member since Oct 2015
2129 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 5:54 pm to
I get down to that when I’m project climbing in the Red. Y’all probably didn’t worry about weight as much in those more hardened, earlier years
This post was edited on 3/1/23 at 5:55 pm
Posted by Finnish
Member since Nov 2021
423 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 6:11 pm to
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Excess weight or obesity boosts risk of death by anywhere from 22% to 91%


Pretty sure I have a 100% chance of dying.
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
2114 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 6:14 pm to
At 6ft, I'd have to get down to 150? Hard to believe that or below correlates to longer life span. I'm currently at high end of healthy BMI at 182 and ideally like to get down to 170. Been working out much more consistently and cardio heavy but cant seem to drop. Trying to eat healthier without going strict diet isnt working I guess.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11474 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 8:20 am to
BMI is genetic.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94889 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 8:39 am to
It isn’t saying the low end of BMI is better than being in the middle of the healthy range

It’s simply saying being underweight on your BMI is far less dangerous than being in the overweight category
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25311 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 8:41 am to
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I refuse to be over a size 4.



A lot of women in Louisiana refuse to wear over a size 4......judging by how much of their flab spill out of their clothes.

PSA: Fat or skinny - wear appropriately sized clothes.
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