re: Study of Biggest Losers finds that the body wants and will fight to be Fat

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This is a lifestyle change, not a short term diet.

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Exactly. It was very hard to stay focued on eating clean at first, but now, it's 2nd nature. I still allow a cheat day but even that is becoming a rarity. My biggest hurdles are trying to stay committed when I go out to eat with clients and resisting the urge to grab something quick that is bad for me when I am in a time crunch.

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if you say no to sweets, people take that shite PERSONALLY

part of it is that so many of our celebrations have sweets related to them in some way, and part of it seems to be a "oh you think you're better than me?" response

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People are embarrassed when you turn down bad food because they immediately think you are judging them for eating the food.

I was struggling the other day because I went to lunch with a friend (mid-40s and thicker in thighs/arse/etc. like many 40-somethings are). I don't let myself cheat during the work week, but she chose Schlittz because she wanted a cheap quick lunch. This place technically has a menu, but nobody orders from it. They sell pizza by the slice to probably 95% of their patrons. I'd have felt like such a self-righteous jerk for ordering and waiting on a special made-to-order salad when she was thinking we'd just grab a slice from behind the glass. So I got a slice of pizza.

It shouldn't be like that! I shouldn't have to feel guilty for eating HEALTHY because someone else takes it personally.

People with their sweets can frick right off though. I hate desserts and have for years. I sure as hell am not using my "cheat" calories on something I don't even like.

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People with their sweets can frick right off though. I hate desserts and have for years. I sure as hell am not using my "cheat" calories on something I don't even like.

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people at the office are the worst about it. I get you made some cookies for everyone but I just ate. My office always has the birthday celebrations right after lunch or at 9am. So I am never hungry for it. I feel like such a drag because I end up turning it down


Then when you say you don't want it and some lady says "oh you are so good I need you self control". no bitch I just ate.

Yeah, I don't miss having coworkers for that reason

The worst is when it was my birthday and they could not grasp that I didn't want a cake. My old office ordered $70 cakes for people on their birthdays. They all knew I did not like sweets, so I hoped they'd offer to just cover my $9 lunch or something. But nope. It was about the fact that THEY wanted cake and wanted an excuse to have it.

I told them to just get whatever they like when they kept bothering me about flavor. They went to WalMart the day of and got some cheap cake. I was the only person to not bring my birthday cake home.

so what about me? I used to have a bad arse metabolism before I started having hormone problems. Now i have to be extremely careful.

For example I pigged out on friday. I ate a boudan kolshe for breakfast, a triple cheeseburger with fries for lunch and fajitas for dinner. I literally gained 12 pounds from Friday morning until bed friday night. Granted much of that was water weight due to glycogen supersaturation, but the point stands.

So....guess what I did saturday and sunday? I was extremely diligent about what I ate and did cardio twice both days making sure my calories for friday, saturday and sunday added up to less than what I burned over those 3 days.

Guess what magic happened this morning......I weighed less that I did friday morning.

And I am not an obese guy who can eat massive amounts and still lose weight. I weighed in at 190 this morning at 11.49% BF.

CPTBENGAL likes to say you have to treat your diet like a credit card, you can charge(eat) what you want, but eventually you have to pay for it(burn through exercise or diet deficit).

Its a pretty simple concept over the course of a day, week, month, year....burn more than you consume and you will lose weight. It work every single time. What you eat will determine how fast and what kind of weight you will be losing.

Exactly.

It's so weird because to me, the office is the easiest place to eat healthy. At home/on weekends, I am tempted by alcohol and going out with friends and ordering out. But at work, I only have access to what I bring with me. So easy enough -- just bring something healthy. Then my only choice is to eat that healthy item or fighting downtown parking to try and order out, which screw that.

The way people in the office freak out over food being brought in, you'd think they must eat salads every meal. But they don't!

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The worst is when it was my birthday and they could not grasp that I didn't want a cake. My old office ordered $70 cakes for people on their birthdays. They all knew I did not like sweets, so I hoped they'd offer to just cover my $9 lunch or something. But nope. It was about the fact that THEY wanted cake and wanted an excuse to have it.

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Happened to me last year so this year I pulled an Andy dufrense and had the office manager order cake just to watch them eat. Mainly because I knew the GF would want desert later and I can't fight that one.

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the fit person is someone who has taken every pre-rec for biochem and is well prepped to take the class


the fat person is someone who has never taken a chemistry class until switching majors. Is struggling, gets a tutor and crams for a test. They end up passing but do not retain any knowledge. End up forgetting 90% of the stuff they learned over Christmas break while they drink and eat themselves stupid again.

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I think we're having two slightly different conversations. You're talking fitness, I'm talking natural body types.

Fit or not, some have a natural predisposition to managing weight better than others. I eat horribly at the moment but I'm still a skinny rail with a little pot belly. I have to really eat horribly to weigh more than 150 lbs. I had a roommate that ate similarly and he was close to 300 lbs.

I think the first part of managing your weight is realizing that everyone's body is different and some need to simply do more to achieve the results they want. Having a shitty body type doesn't give someone a pass for being out of shape. But I think it's fair to recognize that some have it easier than others.

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You're talking fitness, I'm talking natural body types

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There is no natural body type that was studied in the article or that would go on the biggest loser.

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Yeah I love people that hit you with the "come on man one-time won't hurt" line. I usually respond by saying "Man, I'm gaining weight by just being too close to what you are eating."

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That line is the worst.

A few weeks ago, I was eating out at a good texmex place with my SO and her sister and her SO. Both my SO and her sister were egging me on to try out all of their various foods that I did not want, so I kept refusing. It happened enough that the sister's SO said "wow, guys, the guy doesn't want to eat any of that so let him do him, damn!"

"One bite won't hurt" It absolutely will; if I enjoy it, I will want it much more after I taste it