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STUDY: "Long Covid" symptoms may be from Covid Vaccine

Posted on 2/20/25 at 6:00 am
Posted by Delacroix22
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 6:00 am
Sorry.

No Refunds.

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COVID-19 vaccines have been instrumental in reducing the impact of the pandemic, preventing severe illness and death, and they appear to protect against long COVID. However, some individuals have reported chronic symptoms that developed soon after receiving a COVID-19 vaccine. This little-understood, persistent condition, referred to as post-vaccination syndrome (PVS), remains unrecognized by medical authorities, and little is known about its biological underpinnings.

In a new study, Yale researchers have taken initial steps to characterize this condition, uncovering potential immunological patterns that differentiate those with PVS from others. The findings are early and require further confirmation but may eventually guide strategies to help affected individuals.

“This work is still in its early stages, and we need to validate these findings,” said Akiko Iwasaki, Sterling Professor of Immunobiology at Yale School of Medicine (YSM) and co-senior author of the study published Feb. 19 as a preprint on MedRxiv. “But this is giving us some hope that there may be something that we can use for diagnosis and treatment of PVS down the road.”

Some of the most common chronic symptoms of PVS include exercise intolerance, excessive fatigue, brain fog, insomnia, and dizziness. They develop shortly after vaccination, within a day or two, can become more severe in the days that follow, and persist over time. More studies are needed to understand the prevalence of PVS.

“It’s clear that some individuals are experiencing significant challenges after vaccination. Our responsibility as scientists and clinicians is to listen to their experiences, rigorously investigate the underlying causes, and seek ways to help,” said Harlan Krumholz, the Harold H. Hines, Jr. Professor of Medicine (Cardiology) at YSM and co-senior author of the study.

Data for the study came from Yale’s Listen to Immune, Symptom, and Treatment Experiences Now (LISTEN) Study, through which researchers aim to better understand long COVID and PVS. For the new study, researchers included data from 42 LISTEN participants who reported symptoms of PVS and 22 individuals who did not report any PVS symptoms after receiving a COVID-19 vaccination.

From participants’ blood samples, the researchers looked for immune features that were different between the two groups. They found several differences in immune cell populations; those with PVS had lower levels of effector CD4+ T cells and higher levels of TNF-alpha+ CD8 T cells — both are types of white blood cells — among other differences.

There were also differences in the levels of antibodies that the body uses to target SARS-CoV-2. Participants with PVS who had never contracted COVID-19 had lower levels of antibodies against the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein than control participants, likely because they tended to have fewer vaccine doses than individuals without PVS. Fewer vaccine doses and no viral infection means the body’s immune system has had little opportunity to develop a defense to the virus, said the researchers.

When the researchers measured levels of SARS-CoV-2 spike protein — the part of the virus that enables it to penetrate and infect host cells and what COVID-19 vaccines use to trigger immune responses against the virus — they found that some individuals with PVS, even those without evidence for infection, had higher levels of spike protein than controls. Typically spike protein can be detected for a few days after vaccination, but some participants with PVS had detectable levels more than 700 days after their last vaccination. Persistent spike protein has been associated with long COVID as well.

“That was surprising, to find spike protein in circulation at such a late time point,” said Iwasaki. “We don’t know if the level of spike protein is causing the chronic symptoms, because there were other participants with PVS who didn’t have any measurable spike protein. But it could be one mechanism underlying this syndrome.”

Krumholz explained that PVS might be similar to how different infections can cause chronic symptoms through distinct biological pathways. “One person might develop chronic symptoms due to immune dysregulation, while another experiences lingering effects from viral reactivation,” he said. “We need to map these different pathways carefully to understand what is happening in each case. This work is just beginning, and further studies are essential to guide diagnosis and treatment.”

Going forward, the researchers want to further validate these findings in a larger group of people “This is far from a final answer on PVS,” said Iwasaki.

They’re also investigating several possible drivers of PVS. Along with spike protein persistence, the researchers are assessing the contributions of autoimmunity, tissue damage, and Epstein-Barr Virus (EBV) reactivation. In the study, individuals with PVS were more likely than those without the syndrome to have evidence of reactivated EBV, which is the most common cause of infectious mononucleosis, also known as “mono.”

A deeper understanding of PVS and its drivers could lead to better vaccines that have fewer side effects, effective methods for diagnosing the syndrome, and targets for treatment, said the researchers.

“For instance, if we can determine why spike protein is persisting for as long as it is in some people, maybe we can remove it — with monoclonal antibodies, for example — and maybe that could help reduce PVS symptoms,” said Iwasaki.

Iwasaki is also a professor of dermatology and of molecular, cellular, and developmental biology in Yale’s Faculty of Arts and Sciences, a professor of epidemiology at Yale School of Public Health, and an investigator of the Howard Hughes Medical Institute.

“We’re only just starting to make headway in understanding PVS,” said Krumholz. “Every medical intervention carries some risk, and it’s important to acknowledge that adverse events can occur with vaccines. Our focus must remain on understanding what these people are experiencing through rigorous science and addressing the needs of those affected with compassion and an open mind.”
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
15911 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 6:05 am to
Is there anyone that believes anything about Covid anymore?

I'm not reading that but how do they explain the people who have "Long Covid" that refused to get the shot or do they just ignore the facts that do not support their narrative?


COVID is the new Aliens, Jimmy Hoffa opr JFK..

No One is EVER going to know the truth. It's that bad.



Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
22141 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 6:06 am to
"Long COVID" is literally just hypochondria because these people were already mentally ill before they got covid. That's it.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
56675 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 6:07 am to
It's 2025 people. The COVID obsessed are a really confusing bunch.

There has to be more important things to occupy your morning.
Posted by N2cars
Close by
Member since Feb 2008
38029 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 6:10 am to
COVID-19 vaccines have been instrumental in reducing the impact of the pandemic, preventing severe illness and death, and they appear to protect against long COVID.



But some people feel bad after they got the vaccination.
So we're gonna spend a whole bunch of money "investigating"


Wow, no shite.


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This post was edited on 2/20/25 at 6:13 am
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
10013 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 6:13 am to
I agree and disagree with you.

While it is 2025, we cannot afford to leave the potential damage done by mass psychosis if we ever want to protect our society from it again.

People did highly irrational, highly authoritarian things to themselves and worse, demanded others follow suit or be punished.
Posted by Vidic
Member since Jan 2010
9506 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 6:15 am to
But how else will they tell people they were wrong?
Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
7386 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 6:19 am to
pure bloods we up!
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
34543 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 6:21 am to
ETA on the class action lawsuit commercials?
Posted by PureBlood
The Motherland
Member since Oct 2021
5021 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 6:23 am to
I'd like to formally ask every mud blooded JACKASS who tried to coerce their fellow and intellectually superior citizen into taking it to sit out all future scamdemics.


Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
27961 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 6:27 am to
I saw (of course on facebook) where the BMOC QB of our High School team is pissing and moaning about being disabled due to Long Covid.

Sorry you peaked in the 12th grade hoss.






Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55429 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 6:28 am to
You don't hate the progressive media enough.

Look at the blowjob they start the article with, then lean into the reality. We call that a "media fluffer". The only people still buying this today are the ones that think men get pregnant.

Posted by Lieutenant Dan
Euthanasia, USA
Member since Jan 2009
8409 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 6:36 am to
Isn't the vaccine data going to be released in June of this year?

The FDA originally wanted 75 years.


Totally not suspect at all. Enjoy your doughnut with a side of VAIDS.
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
5191 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 6:38 am to
1. Covid has no vaccine.
2. The Covid was not instrumental and was also pushed on the wrong agenda groups. The shot only helped elderly people.
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2011
16698 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 6:42 am to
The zero Covid community is gonna lose their shite when they see this.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43988 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 6:45 am to
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It's 2025 people. The COVID obsessed are a really confusing bunch. There has to be more important things to occupy your morning.


Sorry bro. It’s hard for me to just move on from arguably the largest man made disaster of all time that just happened to coincide with the largest transfer of wealth in human history.

I’ll stop obsessing when the hangings start.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
58529 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 6:46 am to
My cousin has long covid and it’s such a sad disease. When he has his medicine he can function but when he’s off of his medicine he can barely get out of bed, has cold sweats, nausea, diarrhea, etc. he has to go to like 10 doctors to get enough medicine every month.


The scary thing is trump is talking about cutting disability and Medicaid
Posted by Gifman
Member since Jan 2021
17625 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 6:47 am to
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It's 2025 people. The COVID obsessed are a really confusing bunch.

There has to be more important things to occupy your morning.


True. But...

I'll never forget how the government bordered on outright forcing you to get a shot with little research behind it and enacted rules like "six feet" and "oh! you've sat down in the restaurant, now you can take your mask off."

We let ourselves be governed by a cabal of superstitious gypsys for years and can't let that happen again.
This post was edited on 2/20/25 at 6:56 am
Posted by Naked Bootleg
Premium Plus® Member
Member since Jul 2021
3299 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 6:48 am to
The people at work complaining of “long covid symptoms” were 100% the types who never missed a booster. Checks out
Posted by Gifman
Member since Jan 2021
17625 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 6:49 am to
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The people at work complaining of “long covid symptoms” were 100% the types who never missed a booster. Checks out


it certainly tracks ... i've seen the same
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