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re: Study Find Preservatives in Bacon and Sausage Could Cause Type II diabetes

Posted on 1/18/23 at 12:01 pm to
Posted by FoodExit
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Posted on 1/18/23 at 12:01 pm to
Waiting on BaconIsMeatCandy before I make my final ruling
Posted by Hotgin
Kazakhstan
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 1/18/23 at 12:02 pm to
Give me diabetes
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
9738 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 12:06 pm to
Yeah, of course.

If I buy oscar meyer/hillshire farms run of the mill bacon, I understand that I'm putting shite into my body. If I'm being honest, if I buy supermarket chicken/beef/turkey, I know that what they pump into their animals is also no good.

The way to circumvent this is growing your own food, raising your own meat/getting it from local farms, only buying staples at a grocer. This is not an easy thing to do, so we accept a little bit of risk.

If you're buying packaged bacon from Walmart and think you're health is on the up and up, you're woefully ignorant.

EDIT - This isn't the elite trying to get you to stop eating healthful food. This is common sense. There are no solutions to healthspan, only tradeoffs. Your body will feel better if you eat local, leaner cuts of meat with vegetables grown from your garden, baked or sauteed in oliveoil/beef tallow. Particularly if you've eaten less than optimal food your entire life, it won't taste as good as cornbread with fried chicken and green beans with bacon mixed in.

If you'd like to eat the latter every Sunday with a few cocktails, go ahead. Nobody here cares. But if that is your decision, and you decide to not moderate your intake and not do cardio/resistance training, your health span will be diminished and you're more likely to die a less than desirable death.
This post was edited on 1/18/23 at 12:13 pm
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/18/23 at 12:11 pm to
Everyone knows to buy uncured bacon
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 1/18/23 at 12:11 pm to
I don’t have diabetes.
With all the cracklins and sausage I have eaten one would think that I would have Mega Diabetes.
But I don’t .
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
53837 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 12:17 pm to
I'm as good as dead
And I'm not fat

This post was edited on 1/18/23 at 12:18 pm
Posted by 1965tigerpaw
Member since Feb 2018
18 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 12:18 pm to
I read the article. What am I missing?

quote:

The researchers found those with a higher overall intake of nitrites - specifically from food additives - had a greater risk of developing type 2 diabetes


Then the next sentence:
quote:

There was no association with nitrates and type 2 diabetes risk.
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
9738 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 12:23 pm to
Nitrite vs nitrate

I don't know the difference, admittedly.

I searched google and got this.

quote:

Nitrates and nitrites are two different types of compound. Nitrates (NO3) consist of one nitrogen atom and three oxygen atoms. Nitrites (NO2) consist of one nitrogen atom and two oxygen atoms. Nitrates are relatively inert, which means they're stable and unlikely to change and cause harm.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
29456 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 12:24 pm to
Horse shite.

I eat no less than 2lbs of bacon a week. And at least a pack of sausage.

My blood glucose and cholesterol are perfect.
Posted by Spawn
Berlin
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Posted on 1/18/23 at 12:29 pm to
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 1/18/23 at 12:37 pm to
Check out this package of things they don't add. Compare to the bacon/any food most of us eat with all of the chems. We're pickled.

Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26388 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 12:38 pm to
Good applewood bacon is one of the joys of life. Worth the risk. Just buy the better stuff.
This post was edited on 1/18/23 at 12:40 pm
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100294 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 12:42 pm to
Too much sugar causes diabetes
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 12:44 pm to
So avoid bacon and just go for the cinnamon rolls and Frappuccino’s. Sounds like a plan.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 1/18/23 at 12:52 pm to
Then take them out, I just need to eat more sausage and bacon before it goes bad.
Posted by Dirk Dawgler
Georgia
Member since Nov 2011
3888 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 12:57 pm to
I laughed because I used to take in sugar drinks and sweets snacks than anyone. Would make a gallon of sweet tea with 2 cups of sugar and drink it over 2 days. On top of 2-3 sodas and a couple of gatorades. Cookies, m&ms, and whatever else had sugar. And then a year and a half ago it caught up with me. A1C was 13.1. Big wake up call. I haven’t had a sugary drink since and stopped eating sugar snacks and desserts. My A1C went from 13.1 to 6.5 in 3 months and has stayed there since. Went from 225 to 180 and a BMI in normal range for the 1st time since my late 20s (I am 52.)

I’ve been eating bacon and sausage at least 2 days a week and it doesn’t seem to have been detrimental to my A1C. If I have any good advice to the overweight people just start with keeping processed sugar intake to a bare minimum if not eliminate altogether.
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
9738 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

So avoid bacon and just go for the cinnamon rolls and Frappuccino’s. Sounds like a plan.


Nobody is saying that.

Eggs
Potatoes
Onions
Avocados
Spinach
Ground Beef
Steak
Chicken
Turkey
Bison
Kale
Radishes
Bananas
Berries
Sweet Potato
Legumes
Celery
Bell Pepper
Cucumber
Broccoli
Tomatoes
olive oil
natural peanut butter

And a lot more foods that are generally** accepted good for you. The pattern is that none of these come in packaging.

There always seems to be comments when studies like this come out that everything kills you. Which is sorta true, but a bit more of an economical argument. But in terms of value, there are a lot of foods that are available.

In addition:

Barbells
Dumbbells
Sprints
HIIT
Hiking
Walking
Basketball
Baseball
Football
Soccer

I'm not saying it's a particularly fun, I'm saying that to act like this implies that no foods are healthy is false. You have to make the choice.

** - A lot of debate on the above foods as well. Nightshades, oxalates, etc.
This post was edited on 1/18/23 at 3:14 pm
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
34704 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 1:08 pm to
Questionnaire/epi studies. Yay.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
34704 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 1:13 pm to
quote:

I’ve been eating bacon and sausage at least 2 days a week and it doesn’t seem to have been detrimental to my A1C.


Yeah, this type of study should be used to formulate and refine hypotheses and design real studies. Confounding factors, bad reporting and healthy/unhealthy subject biases render them mostly useless for anything else besides click bait.
This post was edited on 1/18/23 at 1:39 pm
Posted by 1965tigerpaw
Member since Feb 2018
18 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 1:59 pm to
Thanks Odysseus32. I missed the A vs. I…

My reading comprehension is off…
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