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re: Student posted a petition for "All minority LSU athletes to sit out until LSU takes
Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:59 pm to elcid
Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:59 pm to elcid
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SO if they use the word,white boy, cracker, honkie, or pinkie, and/or belong to a chapter of the Black Panthers, can they be thrown out of school? I am quite certain there is a double standard here.
Hate speech is protected by the first amendment as long as it doesn’t call for violence. “I don’t like [insert race]”is protected.
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 3:01 pm to bopper50
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Ready for some slow White Boy football then.
Meh!
About 20 years ago a bunch of "slow White Boy" Ukrainians started to take boxing seriously, and now they are over here wrecking shite left and right.
I mean, when was last time you heard the phrase "Great White Hope"?
Posted on 6/8/20 at 3:06 pm to SoFunnyItsNot
What exactly is he (and presumably the black athletes who sit out) going to be asking for? "to take racism seriously" is just some nebulous platitude. Is there any evidence that LSU doesn't "take racism seriously?"
Contrary to his argument, "hate speech" (at least with example he cites) is not speech in violation of the 1st Amendment. It may be wrong. It may be something LSU doesn't want. But it is not criminal.
But still, his whole basis for protest seems to be centered around the words of ONE person. So if that person is refused admission does that mean the problem is solved? If not, then what "solution" is he looking for?
As far as I know, LSU doesn't prohibit black students from attending strictly on the basis of skin color. They don't prohibit black students from participating in athletics. In fact, one could argue that the % of black students participating in the major sports (football/basketball) is vastly disproportionate to the make up of the student body at large. I don't think there is a single written mandate/guideline/rule/policy that allows discrimination on the basis of race AGAINST black students.
If you have a problem/grievance, that's fine. But explain to me what you want done to "fix" it?
Contrary to his argument, "hate speech" (at least with example he cites) is not speech in violation of the 1st Amendment. It may be wrong. It may be something LSU doesn't want. But it is not criminal.
But still, his whole basis for protest seems to be centered around the words of ONE person. So if that person is refused admission does that mean the problem is solved? If not, then what "solution" is he looking for?
As far as I know, LSU doesn't prohibit black students from attending strictly on the basis of skin color. They don't prohibit black students from participating in athletics. In fact, one could argue that the % of black students participating in the major sports (football/basketball) is vastly disproportionate to the make up of the student body at large. I don't think there is a single written mandate/guideline/rule/policy that allows discrimination on the basis of race AGAINST black students.
If you have a problem/grievance, that's fine. But explain to me what you want done to "fix" it?
Posted on 6/8/20 at 3:13 pm to Alt26
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What exactly is he (and presumably the black athletes who sit out) going to be asking for? "to take racism seriously" is just some nebulous platitude. Is there any evidence that LSU doesn't "take racism seriously?"
THANK YOU!
Posted on 6/8/20 at 3:14 pm to Alt26
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his whole basis for protest seems to be centered around the words of ONE person
Who doesn't, and likely never will, attend LSU.
The whole outrage is that his admission was not rescinded immediately, on a Sunday afternoon, after an unverified twitter post from a person who has incorrectly identified supposed racists on multiple occasions.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 3:15 pm to SoFunnyItsNot
War on racism = war on terror
An unwinnable intentionally prolonged endeavor against a belief/state of mind until something behind the scenes is fully implemented
An unwinnable intentionally prolonged endeavor against a belief/state of mind until something behind the scenes is fully implemented
Posted on 6/8/20 at 3:17 pm to Alt26
Also the fricking nerve of this kid to try and get a bunch of social media attention by putting pressure on the players to jeopardize what they’ve been working for their whole lives, generational and life changing wealth and opportunity. So selfish.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 3:18 pm to Tshiz
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Let them sit out. They will likely get the biggest reality check of there lives in that the program will go on without them.
And go 0-12
Posted on 6/8/20 at 3:18 pm to Tshiz
Really a reality check what’s your thought process ????????????
Posted on 6/8/20 at 3:22 pm to ProjectP2294
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Note to teenagers....DO NOT PUT DUMB shite ON SOCIAL MEDIA
He didn't.
What was it posted on? Snapchat? GroupMe? All are forms of social media with public, semi private
Posted on 6/8/20 at 3:29 pm to Alt26
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What exactly is he (and presumably the black athletes who sit out) going to be asking for? "to take racism seriously" is just some nebulous platitude. Is there any evidence that LSU doesn't "take racism seriously?"
For some reason there is this constant ideal that LSU is racist against black people. I've been around campus for almost 20 years now and have never encountered anything remotely racist or noninclusive that was governed by LSU. This does not pertain to Greek Functions as those are essentially private.
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Contrary to his argument, "hate speech" (at least with example he cites) is not speech in violation of the 1st Amendment. It may be wrong. It may be something LSU doesn't want. But it is not criminal.
100% correct, but I have to believe that is going to be a massive talking point in the future.
The only racially divided thing I've ever personally witnessed was at football games from around 2000-2010, really until the band moved, there was "The Sit Down Section". This was the area to the direct left of the tunnel in the lower bowl by the locker room. As the rest of the student body stood, this section comprised 99.9% of black students elected to sit the entire game. I never actually heard their reasoning for it, but i know it always irked people back then.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 3:34 pm to Alt26
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But still, his whole basis for protest seems to be centered around the words of ONE person. So if that person is refused admission does that mean the problem is solved? If not, then what "solution" is he looking for?
Does anyone even know if the kid was actually attending LSU.
Clemson announced today that the student in their racist video didn't, never did, and never planned on attending the school
Posted on 6/8/20 at 3:45 pm to Lester Earl
You are such a dick
Posted on 6/8/20 at 3:49 pm to sunnydaze
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And go 0-12
So be it. You can't let people hold you hostage or extort you.
I'm from the Keyser Soze school of thought.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 3:53 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
if this guy is actually admitted, he's still entitled due process via the code of conduct policy in order for LSU to rescind his admission.
And all that needs to be private.
Not that the masses will understand/appreciate that.
And all that needs to be private.
Not that the masses will understand/appreciate that.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 4:13 pm to SoFunnyItsNot
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However he used a picture of Ja'marr Chase as the logo and it makes it sound like they are agree with this.
Going through your post is like reading a ransom collage where they couldn't find magazines with the needed words.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 4:17 pm to SoFunnyItsNot
Now that athletes are allowed to be paid(ish) can they be fired?
Posted on 6/8/20 at 4:18 pm to SoFunnyItsNot
After the season we just had, I could give a shite if they sit out or not. I'd prefer it if the University doesn't fold to this type of behavior. TWITTER MOBS ARE NOT REAL LIFE!
Posted on 6/8/20 at 4:38 pm to iknowmorethanyou
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Wisconsin seems to manage.
Not without their black running backs, which make up a lions share of the offense.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 4:41 pm to lsuhunt555
Well as detailed in the other thread on this, the tweet was right constitutionally speaking.
So the players should sit out until the Constitution changes? That seems reasonable
So the players should sit out until the Constitution changes? That seems reasonable
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