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re: Stolen Social Media Thought Experiment of the Day
Posted on 2/17/23 at 9:32 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 2/17/23 at 9:32 am to SlowFlowPro
Gorillas + Bears
VICTORY!
Surprised you haven't done that anyway
VICTORY!
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If this thread has already been made, I'll switch my sig image to Joe Biden for a week.
Surprised you haven't done that anyway
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Posted on 2/17/23 at 9:33 am to SlowFlowPro
I would do the hunter and the hawks
Assuming it is like most arenas, there is some sort of rafter or catwalk area I can go to wait out the hour. The only issue is that is useless if the hawks attack me, so I need them on my side. The hunter will give me cover so I can make it to the top. I feel like this is my best chance to survive the hour.
Assuming it is like most arenas, there is some sort of rafter or catwalk area I can go to wait out the hour. The only issue is that is useless if the hawks attack me, so I need them on my side. The hunter will give me cover so I can make it to the top. I feel like this is my best chance to survive the hour.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 9:34 am to SlowFlowPro
The hunter has to be one of your choices. Even if he isn't the best at defending you he's able to kill you right off the bat.
This post was edited on 2/17/23 at 9:35 am
Posted on 2/17/23 at 9:35 am to SlowFlowPro
The question obviously needs more context but it is insinuated that one group is trying to attack you.
In that case, a lion wouldn't need a lot of time to kill a human
But yes, in a battle royale with all the other animals a lion probably isn't the last one standing (a bear is)
In that case, a lion wouldn't need a lot of time to kill a human
But yes, in a battle royale with all the other animals a lion probably isn't the last one standing (a bear is)
Posted on 2/17/23 at 9:35 am to Riseupfromtherubble
Gorilla fight
I just feel like they are the most human like in terms of intelligence and 5 of them with 50 hawks attacking from above while the other animals fight each other just seems to work.
I like how the people in the video are yelling "No! No!" Like "how dare they act like this!".
I just feel like they are the most human like in terms of intelligence and 5 of them with 50 hawks attacking from above while the other animals fight each other just seems to work.
I like how the people in the video are yelling "No! No!" Like "how dare they act like this!".
Posted on 2/17/23 at 9:40 am to SlowFlowPro
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You can take out all of the apex predators with relative ease, compared to any other option, and you can do this from 100+ yards.
Again, more context is required here, but I want you to imagine for a second a 100 yard gap between yourself and 3 bears, 15 wolves, and 4 lions that are trying to kill you.
Bolt ran that distance in about 9 seconds. You putting 22 on target in about 6 seconds?
I am not underestimating the gun. I am properly estimating the shooter
Posted on 2/17/23 at 9:54 am to Riseupfromtherubble
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Again, more context is required here, but I want you to imagine for a second a 100 yard gap between yourself and 3 bears, 15 wolves, and 4 lions that are trying to kill you. Bolt ran that distance in about 9 seconds. You putting 22 on target in about 6 seconds? I am not underestimating the gun. I am properly estimating the shooter
Exactly. The hunter with a gun is not nearly as OP as sfp is insinuating unless the arena is perfectly suited towards the hunter and against the other groups.
really the is kind of a crappy thought experiment because the difference between the very best choice and the very worst choice is pretty negligible. If you pick the worst two options you may die nearly instantly. If you pick the best two options maybe you last 4 or 5 mins at most. The numbers are wayyyy too out of whack to make a argument that there is a “correct” combo.
There are 7 categories attacking and only two defending. Assuming a neutral arena the attacking group wins within 5 mins with ease no matter who is defending.
This post was edited on 2/17/23 at 9:58 am
Posted on 2/17/23 at 9:57 am to Riseupfromtherubble
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There are documented cases of hunters with guns being killed by one animal in the wild, and you like their odds against a horde of them?
I think you may be neglecting that if you don’t pick the Hunter, he is going to be shooting at you.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:07 am to OceanMan
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I think you may be neglecting that if you don’t pick the Hunter, he is going to be shooting at you
I'm not neglecting that at all- but you aren't chained to post. Most hunting kills with a rifle are on a stationary or nearly stationary animal. He still has to hit you in the vitals under immense pressure from a horde of wild animals. Again, It's a "hunter" not a trained combat veteran
Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:12 am to JohnnyKilroy
Yeah it is a pretty impossible scenario to survive
Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:13 am to Riseupfromtherubble
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There are documented cases of hunters with guns being killed by one animal in the wild, and you like their odds against a horde of them?
There are MANY more documented cases of humans with guns killing everything on the list. Especially if we are to assume the hunter gets to take up a defensive position with camouflage. Or even better, up in a tree somewhere.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:16 am to SlowFlowPro
Give me the gorillas and bears, but the rats and buffalo are intriguing.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:16 am to Riseupfromtherubble
I don't know where to post this since I can't start a thread. Someone sent me an image from a reddit thread about TD, saying a gay admin who became homophobic had recently killed themselves.
Im not familiar with how Reddit works all that much but I think it was under Baton Rouge? Unless this is something I missed, I figured that could be something of interest for someone to check out.
Im not familiar with how Reddit works all that much but I think it was under Baton Rouge? Unless this is something I missed, I figured that could be something of interest for someone to check out.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:17 am to IAmNERD
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Especially if we are to assume the hunter gets to take up a defensive position with camouflage. Or even better, up in a tree somewhere.
The hawks kill him/render him useless in less than 60 seconds.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:17 am to IAmNERD
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There are MANY more documented cases of humans with guns killing everything on the list
Not in that volume within an hour while under attack there isn't. Not a single one. My point was that there are cases of a single animal killing a human with a gun. There are not reports of a single human with a gun killing that amount of predators in that time frame
Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:19 am to OweO
the video of the gorilla fight should make your choice to not choose them very easily.
They have no weapons other than brute strength, and a brown bear is going to be a lot stronger than them while having weapons on each hand. Hell the lions could probably take them out. They have no claws and they don't have thick enough skin and fat to protect themselves from other animals claws.
this scenario is hard to fathom b/c you have to suspend belief that a bear or hawk or rat is going to defend you, which isn't believable. And if this was more realistic, none of the animals would be attacking anyone. They'd rather avoid fighting altogether, except for probably the rats. What's going to make them fight and want to kill everything in the arena?
Now if this was like The Kingsman movie where you can sort of program everyones brain in the arena to want to kill everything, then the brown bears are going to annihilate everything in there in no time. there just isnt' another animal in there that can really inflict damage upon their extremely thick coat and fat. All of the other animals would need to coordinate an attack upon them while the hunter shoots them with a very high caliber rifle to eliminate them, all the while the buffalos are taking turns stampeding at the bears and taking out anythign in it's path.
They have no weapons other than brute strength, and a brown bear is going to be a lot stronger than them while having weapons on each hand. Hell the lions could probably take them out. They have no claws and they don't have thick enough skin and fat to protect themselves from other animals claws.
this scenario is hard to fathom b/c you have to suspend belief that a bear or hawk or rat is going to defend you, which isn't believable. And if this was more realistic, none of the animals would be attacking anyone. They'd rather avoid fighting altogether, except for probably the rats. What's going to make them fight and want to kill everything in the arena?
Now if this was like The Kingsman movie where you can sort of program everyones brain in the arena to want to kill everything, then the brown bears are going to annihilate everything in there in no time. there just isnt' another animal in there that can really inflict damage upon their extremely thick coat and fat. All of the other animals would need to coordinate an attack upon them while the hunter shoots them with a very high caliber rifle to eliminate them, all the while the buffalos are taking turns stampeding at the bears and taking out anythign in it's path.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:30 am to SlowFlowPro
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The hunter with a gun (assuming ammo) is a cheat code and should be everyone's #1.
If we are in an arena, no trees, no rivers, none of that. We're in the Astrodome floor, the hunter isn't surviving with a bolt action hunting rifle.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:43 am to BlackPot
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with a bolt action hunting rifle.
An AR-15 is also a rifle
An experienced marksman with an unlimited supply of ammo could do a lot of damage, very quickly
And the rats could annoy all the other animals until the hunter gets around to eliminating them
Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:45 am to SlowFlowPro
Things I would definitely not choose:
-50 hawks
-10 crocodiles
-3 brown bears
-4 lions
My likely pairing:
-7 Buffalo
-1 Hunter with rifle
Strategy: Buffaloes circle around me and the Hunter. Hunter picks off big targets. I fend off the hawks and rats. The Buffalo would provide a solid meat wall if nothing else, but likely could do some damage to the crocodiles and wolves and lions, who would lack the numbers or force required to penetrate the wall. The gorillas and bears also wouldn’t be able to move the Buffalo from sheer force, but could do some damage. Biggest issue would be the rats, who could run under the Buffalo and would be too small and great numbers to overwhelm the hunter. Rats if coordinated could just engulf everyone
-50 hawks
-10 crocodiles
-3 brown bears
-4 lions
My likely pairing:
-7 Buffalo
-1 Hunter with rifle
Strategy: Buffaloes circle around me and the Hunter. Hunter picks off big targets. I fend off the hawks and rats. The Buffalo would provide a solid meat wall if nothing else, but likely could do some damage to the crocodiles and wolves and lions, who would lack the numbers or force required to penetrate the wall. The gorillas and bears also wouldn’t be able to move the Buffalo from sheer force, but could do some damage. Biggest issue would be the rats, who could run under the Buffalo and would be too small and great numbers to overwhelm the hunter. Rats if coordinated could just engulf everyone
Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:47 am to JohnnyKilroy
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The hawks kill him/render him useless in less than 60 seconds.
Absolutely not. Hawks are nowhere the beasts you think they are. To do serious damage to a human they’d have to fly close to the human for several seconds, in which time the hunter could knock them down with the rifle if needed
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