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re: St.George, One Week Later

Posted on 10/21/19 at 8:31 pm to
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 10/21/19 at 8:31 pm to
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What kind of people would sue to stop people from exercising their rights under our constitution?


Because it's against the law passed to prevent such things during the incorporation process
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36030 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 8:34 pm to
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Because it's against the law passed to prevent such things during the incorporation process



If it’s against the law then the petition to be annexed won’t fly. If it is within the law it’s fine by me.

Only petty, greedy, vindictive types would hire lawyers to block citizens from exercising their constitutional rights.

I’m not about being one of them.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
20321 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 8:37 pm to
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He’s still mad that he committed voter fraud to vote against st George and it still passed


Well isn't that interesting... Go on.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 9:10 pm to
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Because it's against the law passed to prevent such things during the incorporation process
I’m pretty sure that’s not what the law says but I don’t feel like looking it up now.

After the first petition drive the organizers and the Registrar of Voters complained, rightly so, that annexations by BR of areas within the organizers petition area kept changing the percent of voters signatures they needed to submit to get an incorporation election held.

So the legislature passed a new law that said any new annexations were frozen while an incorporation petition was in process.

The SG petition process is over. New annexations by BR now won’t change the number of signatures required on the petition. That’s already been done.

So it is legal to begin annexations into BR again.
This post was edited on 10/21/19 at 9:14 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36030 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 9:26 pm to
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So it is legal to begin annexations into BR again.



BR could have annexed unincorporated neighborhoods not in the petitioned areas which were not in the SG boundaries.

Now that SG won the election could you say they were a city and thus to leave the city there would be a different procedure to leave a city than there was to become a part of a city.

It may have happened previously and there is precedence, but I doubt it.

Maybe this will become a test case? Maybe it’s settled law? But I’m not getting bent out of shape about this. Landry is going to leave sooner or later. I’d just as soon see him leave now.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 9:42 pm to
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could you say they were a city
Not yet.

Drew Murrill, the SG spokesman and attorney, has even said the target date for SG to become a city is January 1, 2020. And he has said that date may be optimistic.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36030 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 9:57 pm to
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Not yet


I could not argue that we are now either.

And like I said, Landry can go.

This post was edited on 10/21/19 at 9:58 pm
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
11875 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 11:08 pm to
Probably best to get Rispone elected and inaugurated before becoming a city.
Posted by ellishughtiger
70118
Member since Jul 2004
21135 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 11:13 pm to
I hear all the chain restaurants are contemplating making a move to STG. Millerville and O’Neal lane corridor is about to turn into Greenwich Village.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 11:29 pm to
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LSURussian
why are you acting like gardere peeples, or any other for that matter, are being "excluded" or discriminated against. any people can petition st george to be included at any time.

let me guess, you think st george is "breaking away" from br and that "gerrymandering" is going on. and other tbr bullcrap
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 11:33 pm to
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So it is legal to begin annexations into BR again
how convenient. they never cared before now. now, they are trying to scoop anything and everything up.
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
11875 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 11:59 pm to
Let him be. He's very focused on semantics and wants people to be accurate in their statements. The juice isn't worth the squee6 for me, but who am I to say what he spends his time doing.

Outside of that, I don't fault him for wanting all the help EBR schools can get in improving, and I don't fault him for believing that splitting the current government into more parts will add costs, which it will.
He's right that the ISD isn't a given, and even if brought to fruition, it may result in more taxes.

However, at this point, none of that matters. The vote passed. And I don't blame the residents for wanting to incorporate. It's their constitutional right to do it.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 12:33 am to
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how convenient. they never cared before now. now,
They didn’t have a reason to want to be annexed into BR before now. SG gave them a reason.

Surely even you, who thinks “peoples” is spelled “peeples,” can figure that out.

The result is the city of St. George is shrinking even before it is born.
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6772 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 12:57 am to
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The result is the city of St. George is shrinking even before it is born.
That remains to be seen, as St. George organizers are currently being asked by businesses outside the SG boundaries about annexing in.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:19 am to
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St. George organizers are currently being asked by businesses outside the SG boundaries about annexing in.
And I fully support those businesses right to do so whereas some SG believers on here seem to be considering any business preferring to be in BR rather than SG as making attacks on their family. Very emotional reactions.
Posted by OKellsBells
USA
Member since Dec 2016
5264 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 2:37 am to
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You people do realize that Gardere is now St. George, right?

Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 5:53 am to
Both cities will be ok.
BR establishment going to do what they do best annex businesses not subdivisions.
Eventually it will be where unicorporated areas will have to be in one city or the other to get some sort of fire protection.

What St George needs to do is turn the cards on just annexing businesses and have a municipal fire dept like Baker and Zachary. This way the city controls it and not the metro council. Absorb St George Fire district and make BRFD invest in stations in these areas.
That will be costly or they will lose their class 1 rating. Baker and Zachary charge fair prices to service unicorporated areas. Baker even refused to service and area which Zachary covered for a price. This will put the actual cost of fire service on the City of BR business forcing them to build extra stations and raise taxes even higher in BR. I could see the melt happen. Eastside and St George would just annex all the areas that BR does not want using those fire district fees to support a City of St George Fire dept.

If the consolidated government was really one the parish would disband all fire districts and all city departments BR, Baker, Zachary. Just have one big parish department. In the consolidated government BR becomes first and everyone else is the red headed step child paying for BR services which we should not be doing.
This post was edited on 10/22/19 at 5:59 am
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98771 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 6:01 am to
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The SG petition process is over. New annexations by BR now won’t change the number of signatures required on the petition. That’s already been done.

So it is legal to begin annexations into BR again.





So you were just being completely disingenuous before when you accused me of being paranoid warning this was EXACTLY what was going to happen.

Nice to meet you Mr. Landry.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 6:05 am to
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it's businesses asking BR to take them because they don't want the risks associated with an upstart town like St. George.



Yeah sure, like Baton Rouge is doing so awesome right now amirite?

Your shilling for the hoodrats in the BR city hall is laughable.

Baton Rouge is a shithole and St. George is what's needed to force them to come down to Earth and make hard choices for their future. Whitey isn't going to pay their bills anymore.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14496 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 6:40 am to
Nothing, I think the expectation was it would morph into Central immediately, but that has not happened yet...stay tuned.
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