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re: State Police has released a video about the Kyren Lacy incident
Posted on 10/8/25 at 7:11 am to civiltiger07
Posted on 10/8/25 at 7:11 am to civiltiger07
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Once again the 18-wheeler driver says that Kyren drove between the two vehicles to collided before the collision. After that comment you have to disregard everything he says because he isn't a reliable witness.
Ok. So do you believe if the Charger is not driving down the road that day, this wreck and fatality still happens?
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Posted on 10/8/25 at 7:20 am to civiltiger07
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pretty much. The gold truck turned off the road, and we see from the video that he doesn't pull over to the side of the road he completely turns off the road.
You state as fact what is actually your assumption.
Attorney video only shows gold truck start to pull off the road.
The still picture only shows the final resting place of the truck.
You assume that was the intentional destination of the gold truck.
We do not know when, how or what sequence of events determined the gold trucks final resting place.
The truth is based on facts - not based on biased assumptions.
Assumptions do not change fact.
The fact is, all of us, do not have all of the facts.
The “But-for rule” is used in the legal arena to assign responsibility for an incident.
The question is, But-for the green vehicle driving aggressively, exceeding the speed limit and in the wrong lane of travel - does any other events occur that day?
The attorney showed the gold truck was doing 28mph. White car was doing 49mph. That is not tailgating.
Can you be non biased and still say the green vehicle had nothing to do with the cause of the other drivers actions and movements?
This can be done for each vehicle that influenced the situation that resulted in the fatal crash. More than 1 vehicle can be assigned responsibility.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 7:29 am to civiltiger07
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promoting a racial undertone to the situation how in the world does he do this?
Did you see the LA Democratic Party and the NAACP response to his HTV interview that they took with blind faith was 100% correct.
I challenge you,,,, ,,
Change the drivers and tell me you won’t change your stance on who is responsible.
Had Kyren Lacy been driving the white vehicle that day and not the green vehicle.
Would you still say the green vehicle had nothing to do with the situation.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 7:30 am to zuluboudreaux
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Did you see the LA Democratic Party and the NAACP response to his HTV interview that they took with blind faith was 100% correct.
Pretty sure no one GAF what either of them have to say on the issue. This isn't about race, it's about facts and who is at fault.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 7:32 am to zuluboudreaux
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Had Kyren Lacy been driving the white vehicle that day and not the green vehicle.
Would you still say the green vehicle had nothing to do with the situation.
had something to do with? yes
gotten multiple traffic violation? yes
charged with vehicular homicide and smeared as a murderer in the media? no
If the family had though he was solely responsible they could've sued him in civil court
Posted on 10/8/25 at 7:37 am to Midtiger farm
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If the family had though he was solely responsible they could've sued him in civil court
You can't get blood from a dead turnip.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 7:44 am to MoarKilometers
Why are people still arguing about this? Its pretty simple. Imagine you are on a two lane hwy and all of a sudden a car is in your lane coming at you pretty fast. As it gets closer to you, it appears they are going to hit you so you try to avoid it by turning and hit another car. That's what happened.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 7:46 am to Midtiger farm
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had something to do with? yes gotten multiple traffic violation? yes charged with vehicular homicide and smeared as a murderer in the media? no
If the family had though he was solely responsible they could've sued him in civil court
Now do Lacy driving the white vehicle. What is your view of his actions?
Regarding a lawsuit, we have until 12/18/25 to see if a lawsuit is filed.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:24 am to civiltiger07
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Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:24 am to zuluboudreaux
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Did you see the LA Democratic Party and the NAACP response
No I don't really care about their response.
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Change the drivers and tell me you won’t change your stance on who is responsible.
Had Kyren Lacy been driving the white vehicle that day and not the green vehicle.
Would you still say the green vehicle had nothing to do with the situation.
I can confidently say that I would view this in the same light.
That statement from you sounds like a bit of projection. Maybe you should do the same challenge and see if you would view it in the same light.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:54 am to civiltiger07
I don’t care who is driving what vehicle. The driver does not change the facts or responsibility
Green vehicle in largely responsible for the chain of events.
Gold truck - no culpability - saw green vehicle and nails to avoid head on collision.
White car - responsible for driving into oncoming traffic. But why did that occur? Culpability to be determined on total analysis of actions. Split second decision but why? Speed, lack of attention, did she see green vehicle? Has some potential fault.
Brown vehicle with Mr Hall - 0% responsibility
Green vehicle in largely responsible for the chain of events.
Gold truck - no culpability - saw green vehicle and nails to avoid head on collision.
White car - responsible for driving into oncoming traffic. But why did that occur? Culpability to be determined on total analysis of actions. Split second decision but why? Speed, lack of attention, did she see green vehicle? Has some potential fault.
Brown vehicle with Mr Hall - 0% responsibility
Posted on 10/8/25 at 9:03 am to zuluboudreaux
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Regarding a lawsuit, we have until 12/18/25 to see if a lawsuit is filed.
2 years from the date of the event, given the change in the law last year
Posted on 10/8/25 at 9:07 am to idlewatcher
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This isn't about race, it's about facts and who is at fault.
Honestly I do not think this can be true about anything anymore. At least from the publics perspective.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 9:09 am to Snipe
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Honestly I do not think this can be true about anything anymore. At least from the publics perspective.
I agree with you but to a small extent. Joe Public is a small faction of radicals that want airtime and race baiting.
Their opinion, despite how loud is it, doesn't change the facts of the case.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 9:16 am to idlewatcher
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Their opinion, despite how loud is it, doesn't change the facts of the case.
Yes, Facts don't change, facts are facts you either have them or your don't. But these people end up on jury's, a lot of them. In fact the more I'm forced to be exposed to jury's and jury duty the more I'm convinced that the whole "jury of your peers" is a failed endeavor no matter how noble the intent. I have no confidence that I would even be judged by a jury of my "peers" should I ever find myself in a situation need to be.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 9:18 am to Snipe
No doubt. You'll be tried by your skin color.
I read a study about something similar recently of the conviction rates of whites with predominately black jury and vice versa. It was rather eye opening and frankly very unnerving.
I read a study about something similar recently of the conviction rates of whites with predominately black jury and vice versa. It was rather eye opening and frankly very unnerving.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 9:24 am to zuluboudreaux
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I don’t care who is driving what vehicle. The driver does not change the facts or responsibility
good I don't either. Why would you jump to the assumption that I do?
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Gold truck - no culpability - saw green vehicle and nails to avoid head on collision.
I agree no culpability for the gold truck
Why doesn't the sketch of the scene match what actually happens on video. The gold truck doesn't pull over to the side of the road. He turns off the road completely and continues driving away from the road.
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White car - responsible for driving into oncoming traffic. But why did that occur? Culpability to be determined on total analysis of actions.
Yes why? The data from the white car is known now. The car was traveling at a constant 49mph until 0.5sec. before the accident. The gold truck was traveling at a speed 20mph less. This is not a case of tailgating.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 10:05 am to SallysHuman
quote:If I drop a cinder block off an overpass over 1-10, and there are two cars side by side coming to the overpass. Driver of Car #1 sees the cinderblock falling and instinctively swerves into the lane of Car # 2 and they crash on the interstate.
Good point. You could extend the analogy though... car swerves successfully to dodge jaywalker, secondary car swerves the other way into traffic.
Who is at fault:
1) Cinder block dropper
2) Driver of Car # 1
3) Driver of Car # 2
4) Federal DOT, who built the interstate
This post was edited on 10/8/25 at 10:06 am
Posted on 10/8/25 at 10:06 am to Crow Pie
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Posted on 10/8/25 at 10:07 am to civiltiger07
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Why would you jump to the assumption that I do?
Why? Because I don’t seem to find your view anything other than it is not the green charger fault.
You question the LSP drawing and the gold truck.
The drawing is a rendition of each vehicles movement before and during and as a result of the impact.
The gold truck influence on the events of the crash were it slowing and exiting the roadway.
These posts of yours below, plus some, lead me to believe you have a bias in favor of the green vehicle. That’s why.
Here is the problem with your scenario. The white car didn’t swerve to avoid the Lacy’s vehicle.
Here is a question. If Lacy was potentially going to face criminal charges for this incident why wasn’t the driver of the white car also facing the same thing?
ETA: my problem with this entire thing is this seems to be a case of tunnel vision from the officers. The officer telling the driver of the gold truck what to put in his statement is disgusting.
What does that mean if Lacy is in the proper lane of travel already at that point?
A football field is 100yds. That would be 300ft
And lacy was 92 yards from the accident when he got back in the proper lane of travel.
And 72 yards from the accident at the time of the collusion.
I don’t know about that. She was distracted. Texting or something similar.
So why didn’t the driver of the white car not hit her brakes until after lacy was already in the correct lane?
The car that swerved into the other lane did so avoid a collision with the gold truck. Now did the gold truck slow down to avoid Lacy's car? Based on his statement it doesn't seem so. He was turning off the road.
So hiring/talking to a lawyer means he is guilty? You really want to go down that road?
How do you know he didn't call the lawyer about some other situation?
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