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re: Start your sons to school a year late.

Posted on 7/9/23 at 1:51 am to
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 1:51 am to
OP must be a travel ball parent.

I graduated when I was 17 and so did most people I admire. Push them earlier to try and "compete" with older kids in socialization and academics and they will be better off. They learn the best when they are young.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104078 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 2:25 am to
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This is total BS. My son was 17 when he graduated HS but he had a 4.0. He was on 2 state championship football teams and would have been on 3 if I started him a year later. But he’s fine.
Glad it worked out for him. If you would have started him a year later, do you think the above wouldn’t also be true? There is zero drawback to starting them later, but potential for them to be behind starting them as the youngest
Posted by Crisprdestroyer
Member since Sep 2017
693 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 3:07 am to
This is scientifically proven that your birth month affects future athletic performance, but what month depends on how that sport breaks down their age gaps and is that sport performance determined by school performance or outside school.

Academics is also proven. You may have the smartest kid born in last month of school year but kids will not perform on average better than those born first month. This isn’t huge deal through high school, but has become a problem in high level academics where high test scores determine what law or medical school you get in.
Posted by Buck Magnum
Springdale
Member since Dec 2003
11723 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 4:05 am to
My wife is an early childhood teacher and she always said if we had a boy she would want to delay his start. She said it is good to be one of the oldest instead of one of the youngest. He went to pre k twice. We told him he was a grad assistant. Now he thrives in all aspects of school.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
18336 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 5:22 am to
Thanks mom for not condemning me to an extra year of hiding my boners in class.
Posted by Swamp Angel
Somewhere on a river
Member since Jul 2004
8842 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 8:57 am to
My younger brother's birthday is in December. He started Kindergarten at age four and first grade at five. He was always the youngest in his class and he graduated very near the top. Of course, Mom had all of us reading by the time we were three. Not just saying the words, but reading with comprehension. A lot of it comes from how a child is raised and how much interest his parents have in his success.
Posted by ironwood
Member since Aug 2021
311 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 9:11 am to
Starting them late is okay but it does make it awkward with peers. If the concern is academic readiness, especially in comparison with girls, consider an all boys school. The general educational system is geared toward the ease of teachers, it's feminized. If the grades show improvement that can be part of the college essay.
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3535 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 9:11 am to
We started our son approximately a year late and he is thriving.

Posted by RoscoeSanCarlos
Member since Oct 2017
1715 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 9:21 am to
Agreed. Wish I had held my youngest son back a year. My oldest was the oldest in his class and it showed.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
9689 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 10:15 am to
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he’s too busy acting like a little dickhead in class. He will mature eventually


keep telling yourself that.

my youngest son is 18 and still too busy acting like a little dick head.
Posted by FlyinTiger93
Member since May 2010
3722 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 10:42 am to
OP, your kid is acting out because you should have started him earlier. Gifted children get bored, when grouped in with normal students. Normal curriculum does not move fast enough for them. Consider skipping a couple of grades. He will adapt to the older kids. We have a high IQ kid, and running into that exact issue. In sports, he can relate to kids 2-3 years older than him much better than his age group.
Posted by WhereisAtlanta
Member since Jun 2016
847 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 10:48 am to
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For anyone with pre-k aged boys, you should 100% start them to school a year late. That is my biggest educational regret with my sons, and it’s difficult to undo later once they have friends. Boys on average are just emotionally behind their female peers, and that gap doesn’t close until their early/mid 20s.
I have a son in elementary whose math and spatial reasoning skills are in the gifted range, but his grades don’t reflect that because he’s too busy acting like a little dickhead in class. He will mature eventually, but I seriously doubt his high school GPA will reflect his true intelligence. The extra year of maturity would have made a difference.
This is a spin-off from the thread about girls going to college at much higher rates than boys. As others have said, the educational system really is stacked against boys and the way they learn. Give your sons the gift of time by starting them late. I wish I had made that choice with mine.



I let my kids compete with their actual peers and they did fine, sorry yours were developmentally slow and needed a false advantage to cope.
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
4751 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 11:00 am to
“I’m blaming my poor parenting on the school and system.”

Parents like you are a dime a dozen.
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
41094 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 11:01 am to
You sound like a shitty father looking for excuses to blame his shitty parenting on.
Posted by Tvilletiger
PVB
Member since Oct 2015
5734 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 11:01 am to
Why don’t these nut jobs just start their kid late then hold them back after 1st grade.
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
4751 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 11:03 am to
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You sound like a shitty father looking for excuses to blame his shitty parenting on.


1000%
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
13244 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 11:36 am to
BS! I had this discussion with a so called educator fifty years ago.
Its called set your expectations low enough and your chance of disappointment will be lower.
I have two sons that I taught both to read at age five, no kindergarten.
My youngest son, now a parent, sent his Mother a video of his children opening a Birthday Card. She had sent the card to our Grand daughter when she was about age five. Her Dad was showing her how to read by identifying syllables and sounding out the name. The same technique I had used on him thirty years prior. Her brother, two years younger, was watching closely.
This boy taught himself to read by playing video games before he started to school. He was forced to recognize words in order to play the games.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41109 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 11:39 am to
We held my son back in K…didn’t really help him in school, but it did help with sports.
This post was edited on 7/9/23 at 11:58 am
Posted by STLDawg
The Lou
Member since Apr 2015
4191 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 11:54 am to
It’ll help on the ball field too
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
26001 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 12:22 pm to
This is totally dependent on the child’s birth month. If your child was born in October until early April then they should be in their age appropriate grade. It gets a little more nuanced when they are born in May through September and should depend on each individual kid.
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