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re: St Louis: Unarmed teen shot and killed by police, riot in progress.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:11 pm to StrongSafety
Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:11 pm to StrongSafety
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Darren Wilson doesn't look like he's bleeding or black and blue from the video tapes right after the video
what video? I thought he immediately left the scene...has it come out that it is indeed him in the video?
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Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:13 pm to Topwater Trout
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I thought he immediately left the scene...has it come out that it is indeed him in the video?
Yeah, its prob within the first few minutes... The body isn't even covered yet. He's chatting with another officer, looks distraught, and then slowly walks away with his head down.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:15 pm to Lsut81
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He's chatting with another officer, looks distraught, and then slowly walks away with his head down.
thanks for clearing that up
Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:20 pm to Topwater Trout
A PD officer I know repeated the serious juvi record claim so that's three ppl from STL here on TD who've heard that.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:20 pm to Topwater Trout
Maybe germans
quote:Anon calls for day of Rage
Activists from Anonymous have issued a call for nationwide protests in a "day of rage" this Thursday, a week after a similar appeal from the group drew thousands of people to the streets of New York and other cities in support of demonstrators in Ferguson, Missouri.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:20 pm to the808bass
What was Michael browns record ?
Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:21 pm to the808bass
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A PD officer I know repeated the serious juvi record claim so that's three ppl from STL here on TD who've heard that.
But past actions are not indicative of how he would react
Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:23 pm to StrongSafety
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What was Michael browns record ?
He didn't say particularly. But he did say that if the police officer had ever run him before for any reason, you would've certainly remembered what his record was.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:24 pm to Lsut81
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But past actions are not indicative of how he would react
This has been discussed. If the officer had a history of excessive force it would be shouted from the roof tops. MB has a violent history (rumored) and it cant be used against him ( court of public opinion maybe but then you're a racist boot licker)
Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:25 pm to Lsut81
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But past actions are not indicative of how he would react
I'll say that is fair.
But if I say our nation's history of its unfair treatment of black men under the law, education, healthcare, finance, etc should be indicative of how they may be treated, would that be fair?
If we can use that info against Michael brown, then IMO, people have every right to be weary of law enforcement here because of their history of injustices and harassments of black males.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:27 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
If we are going to use "past histories" then past histories have to applied to everyone involved.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:30 pm to StrongSafety
But then you're talking about collective guilt based on Association of systems, and that simply not a defensible position in the court. It made explain sociologically histories and feelings, but it has no legal merit l. You probably know that.
This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:32 pm to StrongSafety
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If we can use that info against Michael brown, then IMO, people have every right to be weary of law enforcement here because of their history of injustices and harassments of black males.
No problem with that...
Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:32 pm to StrongSafety
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StrongSafety
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Member since Sep 2004
10899 posts
You seem awfully whiney.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:32 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
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Id bet the farm that the majority of these type claims are false or severely exaggerated
I've got work associates who are black and DWB definitely happens all the time. So I can believe other forms of harassment happen too.
That said, most of these Gentle Giants the police kill seem to have a criminal past, don't they?
Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:38 pm to Mizz-SEC
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I've got work associates who are black and DWB definitely happens all the time. So I can believe other forms of harassment happen too.
It's counterproductive for either side to deny the obvious realities that we know were present. Driving while black happens. Young black males attacking police happens. We have to focus on what's truth and how is Justice achieved in each individual situation. And truly push for color blind justice.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:40 pm to Lsut81
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Yeah, its prob within the first few minutes... The body isn't even covered yet. He's chatting with another officer, looks distraught, and then slowly walks away with his head down.
Not possible that he was remorseful about killing the kid. He must have been upset about his aim and the number of shots it took.
eta: First post on p. 777.
Must be a good sign.
This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:43 pm to Topwater Trout
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what video? I thought he immediately left the scene...has it come out that it is indeed him in the video?
I don't know if it's him. It's been held out as him. Some time after the incident.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:43 pm to the808bass
I'm not talking about it in a court of law, I'm talking about it in the court of public opinion.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:44 pm to Lsut81
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Yeah, its prob within the first few minutes... The body isn't even covered yet. He's chatting with another officer, looks distraught, and then slowly walks away with his head down.
Within the first few hours is fair. I don't know that the body was covered within minutes. Don't know either way. Also, if I can't tell if he has an injury to the face, I certainly can't tell if he's distraught. Could very well be distraught. Sure he was. I just can't tell that either from the video.
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