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re: St Louis: Unarmed teen shot and killed by police, riot in progress.

Posted on 8/20/14 at 3:37 pm to
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
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Posted on 8/20/14 at 3:37 pm to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 8/20/14 at 3:38 pm to
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I assume that's the area where the guy was shot yesterday. Please don't make me list all the differences in the cases again.

There are very few differences initially. The reason you know the differences that do exist is because the details were released in the same hour.
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/20/14 at 3:40 pm to
At least some of the local media is calling out the national media for fanning the flames.

Claiming they continue to focus on the instigators for their money shots, rather than what's actually going on

Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 8/20/14 at 3:43 pm to
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Id bet the farm that the majority of these type claims are false or severely exaggerated


A majority. Might be right. But it happens.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
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Posted on 8/20/14 at 3:44 pm to
I noticed that contradiction as well, but figured I just wait and see.
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/20/14 at 3:44 pm to
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There are very few differences initially



So armed vs unarmed, cop cars with camera recording vs no camera, two cops vs one to give account, and "witnesses" at one shotting that had many different accounts ( not sure if other shooting did, but doesnt matter if car and possibly store had cameras). I'm sure there are other reasons the one was cut and dry, but MB was anything but cut and dry with witness not able to be contacted for a few days.

Yeah sound the same to me.
Posted by MrPappagiorgio
Prairieville
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Posted on 8/20/14 at 3:45 pm to
Just saw the Officer Go frick Yourself video

he really fricked himself
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/20/14 at 3:46 pm to
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"you can't throw a rock without hitting a @nytimes reporter" in #Ferguson touché!
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
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Posted on 8/20/14 at 3:46 pm to
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Darren Wilson doesn't look like he's bleeding or black and blue from the video tapes right after the video


I had asked some time back if anyone was good with videos and could zoom it in or clean it up. I couldn't see any signs of injury, but it's pretty far away and hard to see. The thing I did notice, assuming that's him in the video, is he never rubs it, feels it and the other cop doesn't do anything to look at it or point at it. They certainly did a good job of not acknowledging it was there. Just seemed odd but not necessarily definitive about anything.
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/20/14 at 3:47 pm to
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Just saw the Officer Go frick Yourself video

he really fricked himself


he'll be ok. they'll send him back to his precinct and his beat after a couple days off.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Posted on 8/20/14 at 3:48 pm to
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"you can't throw a rock without hitting a @nytimes reporter" in #Ferguson touché!


Should put quotes around NYT... anyone who has ever contributed anything to the NYT calls themselves a NYT reporter
This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 3:48 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 8/20/14 at 3:55 pm to
quote:

Id bet the farm that the majority of these type claims are false or severely exaggerated

So you're okay with 49% of them being true or non exaggerated
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/20/14 at 3:56 pm to
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@CaseyNolen
Follow
Clayton preparing for potential protest. Some biz's closed, parking restricted & 1 street closed. #Ferguson
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:00 pm to
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link? if I break a bone, does it mean that I will bleed or my arm will automatically turn blue?


Just from my experience and knowledge, abrasions to the face tend to swell up quicker. He is a paler guy so I would expect a broken face bone to so some sort of protrusion or internal bleeding.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
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Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:03 pm to
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Just from my experience and knowledge, abrasions to the face tend to swell up quicker. He is a paler guy so I would expect a broken face bone to so some sort of protrusion or internal bleeding.
well, he either broke his face bone or didn't...if he did, there will be xrays and photos to prove it.
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
18000 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:03 pm to
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Thats why you don't hitch your wagon to a cause based on emotions and not facts...


Our emotions come from a place of fact.

But I do think the people of fergusons "played" their emotional card too early. What it really is is the pain that seems to have passed down over generations..
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128859 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:04 pm to
I would expect the adrenaline in his system and probably some shock to perhaps offset some of the immediate physical pain. I'm not an expert on orbital fractures, so I can't really speak to you anything regarding visible effects of such an injury especially in the short-term.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
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Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:06 pm to
hall of cost
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:08 pm to
How could you even tell from the video we've been shown. Either the quality was bad or it was far away.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
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Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:09 pm to
He just shot and killed someone who had just bashed his face (allegedly)...I am guessing he was in a state of shock in the minutes following the shooting, which is when the pics and videos were taken.
This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 4:10 pm
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