re: St Louis: Unarmed teen shot and killed by police, riot in progress.

Still, if the entrance wound was the front of the thumb/palm area then Mike Brown had to have had his hand up, in front of him when he was shot.

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Overkill

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I posted this early but It needs repeating. Someone earlier had mentioned the gunshots placement.


No. Cops don't fire warning shots. Cops don't shoot limbs to disable. ( A gun is deadly force, it's used to stop a serious threat by death if necessary)
The first shot(s) are reported to have happens as they wrestled for the officers gun inside the car. Some reports say MB wounded, some say he wasn't. MB then started to flee and officer have command to stop. MB threw his hands up challenging the officer ( could be where the "hands up" part cane from) then charged. The shots to the right arm suggest the officer was aiming center mass and had to much "pull" on the trigger this pushing the bullets to the left. As MB advanced and first shots weren't effective the last rounds were to the head area. The top of the head shot would be consistent with someone tucking their head in a charging manner.

Some of what I typed is from witness statements and some is personal opinion

Oh shite, more info about the autopsy...

The shot that went into the eye reentered his neck, so he was completely bent over.. Likely head down and running forward.

There is no way he could have been kneeling with hands up at 30ft away.

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It doesn't matter if Brown was stabbing a baby at this point. Any evidence will be ignored by those with an agenda. Anything uncovered by the autopsy will be discredited as Conspiricy if it doesn't fit their narrative.

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Sadly, this is completely accurate for a great many of the concerned parties in this matter. It hard enough to get one person to admit they were a tad early, rushed to judgement and were wrong. There's no way thousands of folks will believe that the cop used lethal force appropriately if that's what happened.

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Still, if the entrance wound was the front of the thumb/palm area then Mike Brown had to have had his hand up, in front of him when he was shot.

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You can't imagine a scenario where he's wrestling for control of the gun?

We literally know next to nothing, fact-wise about this case. And I mean , at most, 1 notch up from nothing.

National guard will not be as nice as the police

Tin soldiers and Nixon coming, We're finally on our own.

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The shots to the right arm suggest the officer was aiming center mass and had to much "pull" on the trigger this pushing the bullets to the left.

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What? You mean push - unless the officer was left-handed, which can't be assumed at this point (although possible).

Pistol marksmanship isn't an exact science - most RH shooters shoot a pistol low and right (which would correspond to the left arm, not right, when facing a target) - generally this is a flinch/anticipation of recoil effect, combined with the more common fault of "too much" finger on the trigger.

"Too little finger" on the trigger would be expected to cause a push to the left (which would correspond to the right arm of a target by a RH shooter).

In any event, these assumptions are based on gun range mechanics - in a short range firearms encounter, with movement of the target, any distractions, etc., all bets are off and virtually any sort of hit to the target facing is possible.

The forensics will narrow down the angle, distance, likely position of the body, etc., and combined with the witness statements we will likely have a pretty good idea.

But, right now, we know nothing. It could have been an execution - it could have been justified - we just don't know.