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re: St Louis: Unarmed teen shot and killed by police, riot in progress.

Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:48 am to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:48 am to
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Ferguson community

How many people you know in Ferguson?
Posted by goldennugget
NIL Ruined College Sports
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:49 am to
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MSNBC reports that Dorian Johnson, the "witness" to the shooting, admitted to the FBI that he & Brown did the strongarm robbery.


Witness credibility
Posted by PuntBamaPunt
Member since Nov 2010
10070 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:49 am to
In an interview with msnbc shortly after the report was released, Johnson’s lawyer confirmed that Brown had taken cigars from the store.

“We see that there’s tape, that they claim they got a tape that shows there was some sort of strong-armed robbery,” said Freeman Bosley, Johnson’s attorney. “We need to see that tape, my client did tell us and told the FBI that they went into the store. He told FBI that he did take cigarillos, he told that to the DOJ and the St. Louis County Police.”
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74853 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:50 am to
Must.Not. Start. yesterdays.debate.

quote:

A white police officer killed a black person nearly twice a week, between 2005 and 2012, according to recent FBI data. Local police involved in 400 killings per year
More statistics on police-involved killings:


LINK

Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:50 am to
Link to the photo?
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:51 am to
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And if they release this info on Saturday, it's a lot tougher to say there's a cover up. Having said that, there's no apparent coverup. Ockham's razor and shite.


808, the reason they didn't release information is pretty simple. They wanted to lock down the witness statements first, particularly Johnson's. I'd be curious to know if Bosley knew about this beforehand.

I would have liked for the information to have come out earlier to avoid everything that has gone on the last week, but the reason for withholding is pretty simple.
Posted by buck54
Member since Nov 2004
828 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:51 am to
Johnson said this all started because they were walking on the street. several days later others act like they saw Brown with his hands in the air getting shot.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74853 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:51 am to
and now the media switches to the Ukraine.

Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:53 am to
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Ferguson community will counter with...FBI making him change his story


they already are.

BTW,wasn't his buddy Dorian smoking a Swisher Sweet in that video posted where he making purpal drank?
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Hammond
Member since Feb 2013
10172 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:53 am to
quote:

Napoleon



So your solution is..? More black cops..? Fewer white cops..?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129658 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:54 am to
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808, the reason they didn't release information is pretty simple. They wanted to lock down the witness statements first, particularly Johnson's. I'd be curious to know if Bosley knew about this beforehand.


I could see Bosley postponing the witness statement to get the troops riled up.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70176 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:55 am to
quote:

How many people you know in Ferguson?


none
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:55 am to
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Sounds like he's already condemning the other Darren.


They're pissed that Ferguson didn't say as much in their release. I'd be pissed too. The manner in which Ferguson PD released the info isn't a whole lot different than what Anonymous did as far as creating a potentially dangerous situation for an innocent person. Look how people here jumped to the wrong conclusion so fast.
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
12464 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:56 am to
quote:

Must.Not. Start. yesterdays.debate.

quote:

A white police officer killed a black person nearly twice a week, between 2005 and 2012, according to recent FBI data. Local police involved in 400 killings per year
More statistics on police-involved killings:

LINK


not getting into it again... but I do want to point out that per that stat, only 25% of police killings are white on black (96 of 400).... Clearly the minority issue :P
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70176 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:57 am to
quote:

Johnson said this all started because they were walking on the street. several days later others act like they saw Brown with his hands in the air getting shot.


Yep. The outrage that a cop would tell some innocent unarmed kids to "get the frick out of the street" sparked all of this. Funny thing is many were quick to believe the officer confronted him with that tone. He still may have but highly doubtful.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:57 am to
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Look how people here jumped to the wrong conclusion so fast.
the black citizens of Ferguson started all of this crap.
The rest was deserved because of how fricking ignorant the citizens of Ferguson looked.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74853 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:57 am to
quote:

Link to the photo?


damn man, use google. I'm not linking a bannable pic, and I doubt anyone else is.

Google it and you will get it.
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
21004 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:58 am to
quote:


A white police officer killed a black person nearly twice a week, between 2005 and 2012, according to recent FBI data. Local police involved in 400 killings per year
More statistics on police-involved killings:



LINK
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74853 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:59 am to
quote:

So your solution is..? More black cops..? Fewer white cops..?




I again, just posted info that is on USA today.

I am just the messenger. read the info as it backs up the numbers that people were saying was a lie yesterday. The only reason I posted it. I already learned that arguing with a wall makes more sense than debating with you. So that's all I got to say about that.
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
15260 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:59 am to
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Governor Nixon and Capt. Johnson will be holding a press conference shortly. Live stream links are below.
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