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re: St. George LA denied incorporation by Court of Appeals

Posted on 7/15/23 at 12:15 pm to
Posted by FieldEngineer
Member since Jan 2015
3002 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 12:15 pm to
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that only included voters within the SG boundary.


That’s all it should’ve included.
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 12:34 pm to
I'm sure they will simply deny them services while continuing to take their money as is happening in other dysfunctional areas in the USA.


People seem to expect that there's some kind of common sense rule of law thing that will ultimately prevail here.

It's not going to happen, and if anything the powers that be will go out of their way to screw st george residents for daring to stand up for themselves.
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
37406 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 12:46 pm to
1) For whatever reason this was denied. Why wasn’t this “denied” prior to being on the ballot? Shouldn’t that have been done first?

2) If this outlines just one/few thing the organizers did in their incorporation filings, doesn’t that make it crystal clear what the precedent is and what they need to do to file again?
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10619 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 12:52 pm to
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It won with 54% of the vote and that only included voters within the SG boundary.


Why would it include any voters outside of StG?

Don’t tell me you fell for the breakaway, better together, & one Baton Rouge lies???

Do you think StG is included within the boundaries and laws of the city of Baton Rouge?

Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
12863 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 1:02 pm to
People should vote with their feet and leave BR and/or LA all together.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
25485 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 1:19 pm to
Other than Lipsey and Engquist, as well as that backwards retard frick Rolfe McCollister who endorsed Broome back in the day, who else do we need to boycott? I haven’t read the shite Business Report in years. I bought my last shotgun online so you’d never have to worry about me giving Lipsey a dime.

Who else do I need to make sure I never give a red cent to… I mean, other than the property taxes I hope to soon deny to BR overall.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10619 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 1:44 pm to
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1) For whatever reason this was denied. Why wasn’t this “denied” prior to being on the ballot? Shouldn’t that have been done first?


The governor had a duty under the law to verify petition met requirements listed in subpart before signing off on special election.
quote:

the governor shall determine if the petition complies with the provisions of this Subpart, including the requirement that in excess of two hundred inhabitants reside in the area proposed for incorporation.


He did so, determined it met all requirements, and called for special election.

Either he didn’t pay attention in law school & made a mistake wasting time and money; it met standard accepted for the 3 other incorporations since 1984 - Central, St Gabriel, & Creola (village); or he knew it had problems & signed it for show in election year knowing it would just be thrown out after election & while he was a lame duck.

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2) If this outlines just one/few thing the organizers did in their incorporation filings, doesn’t that make it crystal clear what the precedent is and what they need to do to file again?


I guess one would have to have access to those legislative notes from 1984 the appellate judges site to figure out how extensive “a plan” must be spelled out or how the judges define it based on notes that weren’t specifically spelled out in final bill enacted into law.

It might just require a very rudimentary plan on petition or require a very long & extensive plan on petition. The court decision kind left that open.

We know Broome said she had a plan…

Later she amped it up to having a “master” plan. Since she as a state senator advised supporters of the SEBR School District to first form a city (StG) to show Senate how serious they were about supporting a school district maybe her version of having a plan should be considered good enough to meet standard …
This post was edited on 7/15/23 at 2:03 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104096 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 1:47 pm to
It will get there sooner or later and the likes of SWB and Chauna Banks will bitch about white people leaving. Without acknowledging that a LOT of this is caused by their mismanagement in various ways such as destroying the BRPD and fricking over entire areas of the city and parish out of spite.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104096 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 1:48 pm to
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We know Broome said she had a plan…


“Tax whitey” is not a plan, no matter how much she thinks it is.
Posted by Stealth Matrix
29°59'55.98"N 90°05'21.85"W
Member since Aug 2019
11708 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 1:53 pm to
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I don’t have a lot of hope for the SC either

Could this go to the USSC eventually if even that fails or is this a strictly state issue?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37364 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 1:55 pm to
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It won with 54% of the vote and that only included voters within the SG boundary.

Why would it ever include people outside the boundary?
Posted by Number2
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2009
2441 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 1:57 pm to
Court of Appeal*
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104096 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 2:01 pm to
Depends on what constitutional issues it could be contested on.

Fifth Amendment perhaps, treating this as eminent domain because BR refuses to let St George stop being a tax colony?

13th Amendment over involuntary servitude for the same reasoning?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104096 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 2:02 pm to
Because a bunch of very stupid people think that either St George was part of BR or that the neighboring city should get to vote on city matters.


If the latter is true, then the whole parish should vote on BR stuff due to the city parish merger.
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
10220 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 2:04 pm to
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The governor had a duty under the law to verify petition met requirements listed in subpart before signing off on special election.

He did so, determined it met all requirements, and called for special election.


Hmm. This is an interesting argument.

I thought that any citizen had 30 days to legally respond once the petition was submitted. If there was an issue with the petition or having the “plan” you would think the time to challenge it was then.

That time passed, the governor reviewed and agreed it met the requirements and set the election.

To me it seems like the time to question the petition was after the petition was submitted and before the governor signed and set an election date.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89083 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 3:41 pm to
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It won with 54% of the vote and that only included voters within the SG boundary. A lot of people are also against SG that live within the boundary.


Then they should’ve made their voices heard at the ballot box.
Posted by Dandaman
Louisiana
Member since May 2017
814 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 4:27 pm to

This post was edited on 7/15/23 at 10:22 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104096 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 4:28 pm to
Which may be the state SC’s way of restarting this whole mess if they don’t want to make a final decision.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
12841 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 5:01 pm to
One name

Richard Lipsey
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
12841 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 5:05 pm to
The reason BR can’t incorporate St. George is that it is too white. State law say you can’t incorporate an are a dilute the minority population. And by minority they mean non white.

So even though the majority of the city is black, they can’t add areas that have greater than 50% white people. On the flip side, they can incorporate black areas if they wanted to and give themselves an even greater majority.

How fricked is that

Guess the 70810 zip code will continue to be the city’s piggy bank (richest zip code in EBR parish)
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