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re: St. George: Donations for Legal Fees

Posted on 11/6/19 at 11:54 am to
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56531 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 11:54 am to
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I'm not getting into an english debate with based on the fact you got called out for being wrong and you are backtracking. Nice try but I'm out.




of course you are



and, it's noted that you are unwilling to admit your mistake.
Posted by Slagathor
Makin' jokes about your teeny tiny
Member since Jul 2007
37811 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 11:59 am to
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Aren't you a drug adict who has spent time in jail?

Where I come from that actually is trashy.

Maybe I'm confusing you with someone else. If so, I apologize.


That's uncalled for... he didn't personally insult you.
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
11875 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 12:01 pm to
#StG.BRexit
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56531 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 12:02 pm to
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That's uncalled for... he didn't personally insult you.



Who was he insulting?
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
5713 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 12:53 pm to
It seems wrong that parish president of entire parish and probably later governor of entire state with certification process are going to tie of funds from StG to make people spend out of pocket.
Depending how long this gets dragged out Do they even set aside tax collections from StG during this process so they can’t be spent in BR? Or is this both a delay tactic and a revenue tactic for BR?
Posted by td1
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
2837 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 1:04 pm to
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Are they really asking for help paying the legal fees after years of promising they’d be ok financially


Um, yes. They planned on being financially OK once the city was formed, had a govt in place, and we’re collecting taxes.
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
49677 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 1:39 pm to
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shouldn't SG be able to find a new citizen who can represent pro-bono?



Hell, a law student should be able handle this suit.
Petition requirements- Met
Legislative requirements-Met
Voting requirements-Met


It's done except for the

It's time to move on
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
5713 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 2:18 pm to
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Broome was right. STG can’t sustain itself. Not even officially a city yet and they’re asking for handouts. They really are a drain on the BR metro area



Hard to sustain yourself when she is effectively delaying certification where funds would be appropriated to city to get funds collected in StG? They went before a Senate committee and tried to say same things to stop StG, but didn’t get vote they wanted (state even made them freeze annexing). They went before voters and didn’t get vote they wanted, so now they punishing organizers and city through delays & lost revenue. Kind of think Governor’s certification process should continue unless suit included stopping the Governor from doing this. I also don’t think BR or EBR should be able to control taxes collected that otherwise would go to StG. The taxes should be put in some kind of escrow until case decided. BR through Broom shouldn’t profit from this and get to spend StG’s money. I am sure law not written this way. Louisiana has always favored lawyering everything up.

It’s a little hard to believe Broom can have lawyer show up to mess up meeting about services and then official file suit including this as issue as parish president. Her role as president should also stop her from acting purely as mayor of BR for the municipality being damaged part of lawsuit. Incorporated or not she has a duty to be even handed to all parish residents. I figured she would be fighting behind the scenes, but at least act like she was open to talks about services & so own with StG while finding ways to do nothing.
Posted by TigerJeff
the Emerald Coast
Member since Oct 2006
16356 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 2:27 pm to
boo frickin' hoo
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36049 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 2:29 pm to
Broome should be able to act in what she thinks is in the parish’s best interest. The law is clear in that as a parish official she has a right to sue. I think that isn’t in dispute.

But what is confusing is what is Pierson’s role? It has been reported she doesn’t represent the parish, or even the mayor’s office, but Broome personally.

Why then was she allowed at a meeting between the SG committee and the mayor regarding plans for SG? Why did she speak at length for the mayor during and after this meeting?

The way the mayor had handled thus issue without C-P council approval and without C-P representation is truly bizarre.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127413 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 2:36 pm to
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The way the mayor had handled thus issue without C-P council approval and without C-P representation is truly bizarre.

If tax dollars were actually involved, then I think it would have required council approval.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36049 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 3:04 pm to
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If tax dollars were actually involved, then I think it would have required council approval.



So who is representing the C-P? In negotiations with SG and in legal matters ???
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 3:07 pm to
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Aren't you a drug adict who has spent time in jail?

Where I come from that actually is trashy.




Every ‘go fund me’ that has ever been posted on the OT has been called trashy, don’t shoot the messenger.


Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
5713 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 3:22 pm to
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let's get the vote first and raise money later. yeah that makes all the sense.


Is this an acknowledgment or sarcasm? It obviously makes sense. Why ask for the money before vote and really even before lawsuit? It’s not like the law requires a challenge. Most true grassroots aren’t political machines taking in money for one issue and using leftover for next. StG has been going on for years they have to be careful about asking for money for a future step or issue before step beforehand is even completed.

Although might be more because 2 different incorporation attempts happened close together with Central with lawsuits dealing with parish law and state law the Governor started incorporation and made appointees while lawsuits ongoing, but it took almost a month and a half after lawsuit filed and over 2 months after election results posted to official record. I don’t think that was ever as contentious as this has been, but I am hoping incorporating can continue even if this is dragged out. I guess that depends on JBE. Even with lawsuits The original date wanted for vote probably would have forced him to official start process before election and runoff, but JBE pushed it to October. Now he can sit and either have sour grapes helping delay StG until he leaves or be emboldened to be a part of draining resources of StG movement until every legal process used up well into his next term.

This post was edited on 11/6/19 at 4:06 pm
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56531 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 3:23 pm to
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Every ‘go fund me’ that has ever been posted on the OT has been called trashy, don’t shoot the messenger.



So, your comment was just a "this is what we do on the OT" comment?
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 3:28 pm to
Pretty much


Did you take it as me calling you personally trashy?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56531 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 3:44 pm to
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Did you take it as me calling you personally trashy?



Personally? No. I didn't think you were personally calling me trashy.

There are several people criticizing the St. George organizers request for a donation in this thread. I assumed you were doing the same.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98855 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 3:45 pm to
BR BUsiness Report article on it

Check out this gem from MOP:

“There is no one else we can sue because St. George is just some vapid idea in the heads of Chris Rials and Norman Browning, who are unelected, self-appointed and represent no one but themselves.”

what a fricking c*u*n*t
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6088 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 3:53 pm to
Crap like this - withdrawing from a city, withdrawing from a country - should always be decided on 2/3 vote, if not 3/4. You can't let some temporary numerical majority determine something like this.
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
2744 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 3:54 pm to
quote:

Crap like this - withdrawing from a city, withdrawing from a country - should always be decided on 2/3 vote, if not 3/4. You can't let some temporary numerical majority determine something like this.


Nobody is withdrawing from anything, genius.
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