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re: St. George: BTR: 1st ‘taxes will go up’ Now ‘brace for cuts’

Posted on 5/10/19 at 12:37 pm to
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87204 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 12:37 pm to
There is no split.
This post was edited on 5/10/19 at 12:37 pm
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
12646 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 12:37 pm to
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Mayor Broome is whining on TV about it, seemingly not to show any love for those in St. George or their concerns



This dummy getting elected is what sealed the deal. St George is happening because of her and her ilk.
Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
12964 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 12:37 pm to
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Don't be so myopuc.


I hate being that guy, but damn

In general, EBR did this to itself when SWB was elected and they kept fighting their perspective of white flight. All St George wanted was an ISD and to be treated fairly. Now that they got their ducks in a row to incorporate EBR wants to sue. It's pathetic.
Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
12964 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 12:39 pm to
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There is no split.



Good leadership would find ways to bridge some peace and work together separately.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37720 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 12:42 pm to
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While it's not technically splitting in two, it effectively is.


No it isn’t.
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What does your mailing address say?

What an absurd argument. Unincorporated areas use the closest city as a placeholder in their address.

That doesn’t make you “part” of the city.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
12646 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 12:42 pm to
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StG people say the incorporation will stop the spiral downward but truthfully, this move will further it. StG will likely stabilize to some degree (not significantly upward nor downward).


Tell that to Zachary and central.
This post was edited on 5/10/19 at 12:43 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103144 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 12:43 pm to
Negotiation was tried and the St George side was called racists, terrorists, etc., mainly because BR believed it would never happen.

NOW they want to negotiate? frick em.
Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
12964 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 12:46 pm to
Definitely feel the sentiment for that as it's ridiculous what has had to happen and is happening when EBR "leaders" didn't get what they want. Long term, we need to find a way to work together separately. I don't see this current office coming anywhere near that so yeah, frick it.
Posted by Evil Little Thing
Member since Jul 2013
11599 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 12:54 pm to
This is random and may not be the appropriate place to ask, but I don’t want to start a new post. Isn’t Prairieville the same as St. George in that they are both census-designated places/unincorporated communities?

Prairieville is more populated than Gonzales & Donaldsonville combined. Why don’t they want to be a real town? Is it a “leave well enough alone” deal, where Gonzales hasn’t pissed us off enough?

Disregard if this is derailing to the thread. I’m just curious & hadn’t thought about it much before the St. George situation.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
66666 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 1:00 pm to
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This furthers another point: StG people say the incorporation will stop the spiral downward but truthfully, this move will further it. StG will likely stabilize to some degree (not significantly upward nor downward) but BR will see noticeable setbacks and the metro area as a whole will not truly prosper long-term.


So at least the move could hopefully help people in SG

Rather than it go down the shitter like everywhere else
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103144 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 1:01 pm to
Prairieville isn’t being treated like a colony of Gonzales, to be exploited solely for resources and not be allowed to do things like have its own school district.


AP has issues, which are mainly infrastructure related, but the ability to get your kids into a good school system while living there isn’t one. That’s a huge issue in BR which is why anyone who can’t afford private schools is moving to Central, Zachary, AP, or LP.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
12500 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 1:10 pm to
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What does your mailing address say?
quote:

What an absurd argument. Unincorporated areas use the closest city as a placeholder in their address.
This. Plus Google tells me I live in Village St. George so
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49093 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 1:12 pm to
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It's funny that this riles you guys up. Don't be so myopuc. While it's not technically splitting in two, it effectively is


It's not true, technically or effectively. That patently false language is only being used to sow discord and create a false narrative in the media.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14419 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 1:23 pm to
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Looking at the map. I see the mall and Seigen marketplace would stay with the city.

I also notice the mostly black area of unincorporated South Baton Rouge were left out of St. George. (Gadere) I was pretty sure the original St George map ended at the city border.
If st George had a ghetto, it would be easier to fight off the racism and country club city comments. The bad they could vote against. The good, that area has potential.

This will be great for the people in St George but it will devistate the city.


I had really wished the the new city would have started small. Say the jones creek rd area. Then after formation, allow the surrounding areas the option to in (request to be annexed in) and expand the city that way. I didnt like the idea of all uni-incorporated areas that was the first map.

i remember seeing an old EBR map (huge wall map from the early 80's) indicating that area was called Woodlawn.....

Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49093 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 1:26 pm to
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i remember seeing an old EBR map (huge wall map from the early 80's) indicating that area was called Woodlawn.....



That's the name of neighborhood adjacent to Jones Creek Rd.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103144 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 1:29 pm to
Federal civil rights law has made that damn near impossible.

Annexing new areas which are already populated is generally challenged by the government under the argument that you are diluting the voting rights of any minorities within the existing city.


That kind of shite is how we got to St George, as BR hasn’t really annexed any residential areas in about 30+ years as a result.
Posted by stampman
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
5145 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 1:32 pm to
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I guess killing a mother and shooting her young daughter qualified.

Well liberals say this is a small price to pay so everyone can be "equal" !
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
12125 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 1:41 pm to
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Definitely feel the sentiment for that as it's ridiculous what has had to happen and is happening when EBR "leaders" didn't get what they want. Long term, we need to find a way to work together separately. I don't see this current office coming anywhere near that so yeah, frick it.
Does Franklinton have to work with Bogalusa?
Does Opelousas have to work with Eunice?
Does Homer have to work with Haynesville?
Does Monroe have to work with Sterlington?

Obviously, there are countless examples of multiple cities existing within a parish. And yet, they all seem to co-exist peacefully.

The only reason BR city is so threatened by St George is because they've been sweeping the unincorporated taxes into the general fund and then using that money on BR city.... and now, St George is threatening to take that money away.
It's time to get fiscally responsible BR city. Long past time.
Posted by SlackMaster
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
2836 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 1:58 pm to
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What does your mailing address say?


quote:

What an absurd argument. Unincorporated areas use the closest city as a placeholder in their address.


You really don't find this to be silly? If somebody asked you where you live in the past, would you say "an unincorporated area near Baton Rouge"? No. You'd say Baton Rouge. Previous to incorporation, people would have always said "I live in Central" or "Zachary". If you and I were talking face to face, would you really feel that you live in a different city, like say, Denham Springs? Not at all.

Regardless, I just think it's funny how the phrase "splitting the city" triggers you guys. Everybody, including you as evidenced by your stated goals, thinks of it this way.

This post was edited on 5/10/19 at 2:00 pm
Posted by bigfatpimp
st. gabriel
Member since Sep 2005
320 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:10 pm to
I live 1/4 mile from Ascension Parish and my address is in Baton Rouge.

Let's call 911 and see if BRPD shows up.
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