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re: Some idiot from Advocate says "system rigged against poor kids' schools"

Posted on 9/16/17 at 3:23 pm to
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42619 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 3:23 pm to
Yes, a family without a good dad is usually not as good as families with good dads and good moms.

Parents can stack the deck against their own kids.
This post was edited on 9/16/17 at 3:26 pm
Posted by LSU Wayne
Walker
Member since Apr 2005
4464 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 3:25 pm to
No one is worse than the race bating "columnists" of Nola.com.
Posted by EST
Investigating
Member since Oct 2003
18290 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 3:51 pm to
It seems to me the school system is rigged by poor kids from dysfunctional families.
Posted by go_tigres
Member since Sep 2013
5484 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 3:59 pm to
I was "poor" financially growing up. My mom was a teacher and a single parent with 3 kids and my sperm donor dad was a POS. The system is not rigged against poor kids, it doesn't support lazy, unwilling, or entitled kids very well though.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34401 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 4:01 pm to
He needs to just come out and say what he's beating around the bush on. Many black communities need to nut up and put some emphasis on education instead of tats, tits, and thievery.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56550 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 5:02 pm to
Mom didn't marry and didn't finish High School.

The rich guy who doesn't care about this woman is the reason she is poor.

Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80690 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 5:04 pm to
How can it be rigged when you have an entire culture that as a whole doesn't value education.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25427 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 5:13 pm to
Of course the prevailing opinion on the OT is that school funding has absolutely no effect on the quality of education. How convenient.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
66973 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 5:48 pm to
quote:

course the prevailing opinion on the OT is that school funding has absolutely no effect on the quality of education. How convenient.


Well considering the us spends more per student than most other countries yet we lag in performance it's not exactly surprising.

Months ago there was also some stats posted from Mississippi. Guess what grades the schools that's spent the most money received? A whole lot of C, D, and Fs.

The ones getting A and B spent much less per student.
Posted by lbj1808
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2016
56 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 7:46 pm to
To be honest, I am a poor kid who grew up in a "mobile home" subdivision with a single Mom.

I was in what is now called AP classes,and had straight A's. My mother had a GED because she had me at 17. She taught me that if I applied myself I could do anything.

Yes, my situation at home was lousy, I was dirt poor and ridiculed for being a certain type of "trash" more often than I'd like to admit. That situation taught me to be and do better.

It's shameful that these families/kids you guys mention do not care enough to prove everyone wrong.

Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77261 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 8:00 pm to
So the problem is that these children have the shittiest people as their parents.

How do you fix that?
This post was edited on 9/16/17 at 8:00 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299445 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 9:03 pm to
quote:

To be honest, I am a poor kid who grew up in a "mobile home" subdivision with a single Mom


I grew up in a working class poor home. Schools are buildings, teachers and students. If the kids and parents don't value education no learning takes place.

All the kids I ran with graduated from college.

Poor schools are just byproducts of poor students
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35494 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 9:03 pm to
It's not the school's role to overcome a sh!tty homelife.

Schools in the same district get similar funding, so this "poor" stuff refers to the kids themselves, not the school or its resources.

You can take the faculty from the best and worse schools and swap them. You will see no noticeable difference.

Because the issue is the kids and the family, not the school.

Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49661 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 9:04 pm to
quote:


They usually blame all the white people that left the public school system in BR after the forced busing took place. They did leave and the schools went to shite. it's hard to blame someone living in a 350k house off of Jefferson Hwy not wanting to send their kids to Tara with kids from Gus Young. Outside of the magnet schools, John Parker destroyed public education in BR.


What everyone tends to forget is that back then we had community schools. I grew up in old Goodwood and went to Tara when it was a neighborhood school. I went from 1st grade through high school within walking distance of schools and with the same kids.

McKinley, Istrouma, Capital, Scotlandville all were community schools with an active and supportive parental base, maybe more working class but nevertheless they were there. And when the Federal Government decided to but into our local schools those communities were just as much against forced bussing as any parent from Tara, Broadmoor or Woodlawn. No parent of a kid in the bottom or Scotlandville wanted their kid to bus across town-with a transfer no doubt-to attend Tara or Broadmoor. Those black schools were good schools. When judge Parker picked up the East Baton Rouge school system and shook it like a fricking snow globe it was downhill from there. This town, the politicians, the community leaders and the parents , both black and white fought like hell to prevent that and lost.

Baker, like Zachary and Central wanted its own independent school district, it got it and now it is overwhelmed without support of the whole parish.
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 9:11 pm to
Easy to explain. Most schools are funded via property tax. Home values in poor areas are low thus those schools have very low funding. Funding is a big issues for most schools.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 9:47 pm to
I went to one of the wealthiest public HS in my state. There was definitely more resources and opportunities for students. But being also the largest HS in the state there wasn't as much one on one time with teachers, kids either had to be the seld driven types or have involved or strict parents to make the most out of the oppurtunties given there.

Every school has those kids that are extremely bright but just lazy, or even so bright that school bores them and they don't apply themselves... Kids like that I think are the lone exceptions who could actually benefit from smaller, poorer schools. The curriculum is so easy at small country schools that bright kids like that can not just skate by, but actually still have really good grades with really minimal effort. Then they can still get into a solid college when most of those kids learn a little discipline, and for the first time get excited about school and begin to actually apply themselves and try.
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6407 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 9:59 pm to
"Rigged" may be a poor choice of words, but if you don't believe that poor kids have it tougher you're willfully blind.
And this "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" is easy to say, but harder to do. Most kids don't have to do that to succeed.
The schools that teach poor kids need more resources to help the kids, because the kids have fewer...be it the cause of their parents or not.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26608 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 10:03 pm to
quote:

The paper thinks anything that will sell is fit to publish


Politics aside....The Baton Rouge Advocate often reads like It was written by someone in middle school.
Posted by Pico de Gallo
Member since Aug 2016
1894 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 10:04 pm to
It's an opinion piece. Must not have gotten many options in this week.
Posted by Pico de Gallo
Member since Aug 2016
1894 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 10:05 pm to
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No, he's a black editorial writer employed by the Advocate.


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