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re: Social Security has 6 years left, cut benefits or raise taxes?
Posted on 3/20/26 at 11:02 pm to BK Lounge
Posted on 3/20/26 at 11:02 pm to BK Lounge
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but even that amount will hit hard for someone on a fixed income .
What about the amount someone with a young family is forced to pay into this abortion of a wealth redistribution program?
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Posted on 3/20/26 at 11:21 pm to Warfox
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SSI Disability and Dual Disability needs to be SEVERELY reformed, and anyone defrauding the system needs to burn.
True…but…not paid out of SSI funds.
Posted on 3/20/26 at 11:23 pm to TigerintheNO
Just give me my damn money that was stolen from me; same for every other tax payer. You can take it from all the crooked assed politicians that were taking it from us.
Posted on 3/20/26 at 11:35 pm to SuperSaint
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Anyone that wouldn’t vote for the program to completely shut down tomorrow, is a selfish a-hole that doesn’t give a damn about their grandkids
It can't last, but we act like it will just continue forever. My generation might be the most fricked, pay into it for 30+ years and don't get shite.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:03 am to SlowFlowPro
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In this hypothetical system, where would the money to pay your payments come from? If the young people opt out, your funding dries up.
I would start by forcing the government to pay back the trillions that it has taken from the SSA trust to fund other government programs out of the operating budget. Pay your citizens what you owe them first then fund the rest of the government.
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it has borrowed approximately $2.7 trillion to $2.8 trillion in accumulated surpluses to fund other government operations.
I would be ok if they killed the program tomorrow and I never pay a $ to FICA again, but you have to pay the debts owed out of the operating budget. Hell, they can put check box on the 1040 asking you if you want to let Uncle Sam keep your FICA contributions for guys like you, fareplay, and Scruffy who are completely OK with Uncle Sam stealing from you.
In my opinion the federal gov't owes it's employees their paychecks first and then it owes its citizens their Social Security checks before any other portion of the government gets funded or foreign aid is distributed.
The government defaulting on its debts to its citizens should be unfathomable and unforgivable.
This post was edited on 3/21/26 at 12:51 am
Posted on 3/21/26 at 1:51 am to TigerintheNO
Gen X. Our entire life has been enshittification. We came right after the good ole days. And now Social Security is about to shite the bed just as we're entering retirement.
I have paid. A lot. SS taxes and otherwise.
I have paid. A lot. SS taxes and otherwise.
This post was edited on 3/21/26 at 1:52 am
Posted on 3/21/26 at 3:00 am to TigerintheNO
Boomers gonna take social security with them to their graves too
Posted on 3/21/26 at 3:27 am to Warfox
I was in the Section 8 housing game. All those people on receiving a “guberment chek” and are on some form of ss disability.
The amount of fraud in social security is mind numbing.
The amount of fraud in social security is mind numbing.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 5:41 am to RoscoeSanCarlos
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The amount of fraud in social security is mind numbing.
You’re not wrong.. but you dont just throw out the baby with the bathwater.. many people benefit from SS, despite the ones who perpetuate fraud .
It’d be like saying b/c so many dumbasses drink & drive, and kill themselves or wipe out an innocent family of four on the road- we should outlaw the automobile.. that’s lazy thinking .
Posted on 3/21/26 at 6:39 am to GruntbyAssociation
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Dems buying votes by giving away what you earned.
Supporting the ones with your money to continue to not ever have to work a day in their lives. It's the Dem way showing support for the less fortunate
My issue is what their definition of that really is.
This post was edited on 3/21/26 at 6:41 am
Posted on 3/21/26 at 6:46 am to G2160
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Unlike SS, neither of these programs are for my “benefit”.
You're now proving Scruffy's point about the selfishness
You approve welfare, but only if you are the one benefiting from it
This post was edited on 3/21/26 at 6:47 am
Posted on 3/21/26 at 6:49 am to Hampton
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Anytime they're saying that they're running out of money for social security is bullshite. Look how much money they come up out of the blue with for the Ukraine and for Iran
I don't think you appreciate the scale of SS spending. Those things you listed are nothing in comparison
Posted on 3/21/26 at 6:53 am to SlowFlowPro
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You're now proving Scruffy's point about the selfishness
You approve welfare, but only if you are the one benefiting from it
Get em
Posted on 3/21/26 at 6:57 am to armytiger96
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it has borrowed approximately $2.7 trillion to $2.8 trillion
That's less than 2 years of SS payments. So in your hypothetical, we add more to the debt so you can get 2 years of SS payments back.
Now where will the other 90%+ of your SS payments come from?
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I would be ok if they killed the program tomorrow and I never pay a $ to FICA again, but you have to pay the debts owed
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In my opinion the federal gov't owes it's employees their paychecks first and then it owes its citizens their Social Security checks
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The government defaulting on its debts to its citizens
Other than the 2 years noted above, "debt" has no relationship to SS and citizens. SS payments are from a redistributive welfare program. There is no debt owed.
You're framing this dishonestly, whether you realize it or not. It's a problem with this discussion that leads directly to the emotional-irrational NPC response "yeah we can end it when they pay me back what I paid (sometimes even insanely irrational, adding interest)". That is not going to happen. It's a sunk cost fallacy based around either your inability to understand or desire to believe fantasies and reject reality.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 7:03 am to back9Tiger
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while am no Boomer fan by any means
I’m not a boomer but don’t get why there are those that hate old people. Guess what, if you are lucky you will get old one day too.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 7:06 am to Ramblin Wreck
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why there are those that hate old people.
Nobody hates old people because they're old. Its hate for the "imma get mine" attitude and leaving a steaming heap of shite for their children and grandchildren to deal with.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 7:11 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Nobody hates old people because they're old. Its hate for the "imma get mine" attitude and leaving a steaming heap of shite for their children and grandchildren to deal with.
What are they suppose to do, opt out of receiving SS? They paid into it and are now receiving it. The younger voters should insist that SS funds are not diverted to illegals and other fraud.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 7:15 am to Scruffy
Scruffy,
With the assumption that you are not of retirement age, thank you so much for getting up each day and going to work. Now that may be a big assumption too that you do work vs living on the couch in your mom's house. We are enjoying the monies you are putting into social security.
With the assumption that you are not of retirement age, thank you so much for getting up each day and going to work. Now that may be a big assumption too that you do work vs living on the couch in your mom's house. We are enjoying the monies you are putting into social security.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 7:16 am to Ramblin Wreck
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The younger voters should insist that SS funds are not diverted to illegals and other fraud.
A new irrational NPC talking point has entered the chat
Posted on 3/21/26 at 7:16 am to Ramblin Wreck
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What are they suppose to do, opt out of receiving SS?
Insist that a plan be put in place to eliminate it and ditch the "aint my problem" attitude. Im in my mid 30's and id be fine paying into it for 5 more years and it going away after that, so that my kids dont have to live with it. Ive paid quite a shitload of money into it myself.
Its wealth redistribution, and everybody is ok with it as long as its being redistributed to them.
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