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re: So how much longer till MLK gets the Columbus treatment?

Posted on 1/20/20 at 11:54 am to
Posted by stout
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 11:54 am to
I posted the link above in my previous post
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 11:55 am to
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So how much longer till MLK gets the Columbus treatment?


I mean Columbus committed mass genocide

King may have done some shady shite, I don't know i haven't researched it, but it does not begin to equal mass fricking genocide
Posted by yankeeundercover
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 11:55 am to
Just quoting a supposed article?

No credible link?

Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 11:56 am to
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If any MLK historian is equipped to weigh the validity of the FBI file evidence,



The problem, as multiple other historians pointed out, is he all but ignored the culture of the FBI under Hoover at that time, and he took the claims from FBI agents as truth with little to no scrutiny. Which is counter to prior statements he had made over being skeptical of FBI documents from that era.

Also, it wasn't a book. It was an essay several American outlets refused to run and it first appeared in a British outlet before all the usual conservative sites picked it up.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 11:57 am to
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Teach a balanced version of MLK and see what happens



How many historical figures do you follow into the bedroom?
This post was edited on 1/20/20 at 11:58 am
Posted by stout
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 11:57 am to
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King may have done some shady shite, I don't know i haven't researched it, but it does not begin to equal mass fricking genocide



He openly supported the Viet Cong.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 11:58 am to
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and he took the claims from FBI agents as truth with little to no scrutiny.


Some of MLKs closest confidants have confirmed the affairs over the years.
Posted by High C
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 11:58 am to
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King embraced the 1960s New Left’s hatred of America. In their eyes, the United States was an evil empire driven by white oppression, militarism and capitalist exploitation.


Sound familiar?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 11:59 am to
I agree. However, it is the modern way. And sweeping the negative under the rug and/or outright dismissing it as racist propaganda sets a concerning precedent, as well. In reality, acknowledging the negative does not decrease the impact of the positive. It simply acknowledges the reality of the past.
Now, should that reality be used to destroy the legacy of a person? No. Is it currently being used as a means to shape our view of history in regards to most every subject? Yes.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 11:59 am to
What does the bedroom have to do with it? He openly disliked gays, he was A socialist, the cheating on his wife thing just goes against his Christian nature and doesn't bother me. I mean more on his beliefs outside of the equality for African Americans and how he viewed women/gays.
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 11:59 am to
Discrediting MLK for his many documented character flaws has been a cottage industry for decades. Usually done by men with even bigger flaws. As if his flirtation with Communism and plagiarizing and philandering somehow negates his larger message and put-your-money-where-your-mouth-is courage. MLK Jr. belongs to history now for his message that America NEEDED to hear, and we are adult enough to understand the complexities and imperfections of human nature. He was imperfect. His message however, was near-perfect and a medicine we needed to drink.

Here's to MLK, Jr among the bravest of peace-time men. A fine flawed American.
Posted by mindbreaker
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:00 pm to
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He openly supported the Viet Cong.


get back to me when it comes out he outright led and controlled the Viet Cong that would be a proper equivalent.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:00 pm to
Okay.
Posted by Amadeo
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:00 pm to
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Your talking about numerous deaths due to the direction of these individuals as superior commanders. King preached pacifisim. WTF???

And then there's Thomas Jefferson, the man who put words to paper some of the most brilliant ideals of liberties and freedom that political entities have studied and will continue to study and emulate for years to come...heretofore to be known as the man who knocked up Sally Hemings.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:01 pm to
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Why? History says General Lee was a bad person because he fought for the south even though he was against slavery and that George Washington was a bad person because he owned 200+ slaves.


Who said I was in disagreement with your OP?
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:02 pm to
quote:

He openly supported the Viet Cong.


He supported not being in the war in the first place.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:03 pm to
quote:

He openly supported the Viet Cong.


Ehhhhh, I wouldn't say that.

Just because someone is anti-Vietnam War doesn't make them pro-Viet Cong.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:04 pm to
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He supported not being in the war in the first place.



Yes as did a lot of people but they didn't openly support the Viet Cong like he did.
Posted by HT713
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:05 pm to
pretty sure it's a little late for MLK to be getting syphilis
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

What does the bedroom have to do with it? He openly disliked gays, he was A socialist, the cheating on his wife thing just goes against his Christian nature and doesn't bother me. I mean more on his beliefs outside of the equality for African Americans and how he viewed women/gays.


None of this discredits what he did.

You say teach about it as some sort of balanced approach. You want to balance the image as a way to discredit what he did.
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