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re: So how much longer till MLK gets the Columbus treatment?

Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:07 pm to
Posted by stout
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:07 pm to
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blacks are more equal than whites, dumdum


Not rich white men. That's why people like HTrandomnumbers wants to take their money and businesses from them.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:08 pm to
You are being two-faced and hypocritical.

You admit that Washington shouldnt be judged for owning slaves because he is celebrated as commander in chief and president.

Wholeheartedly agreed.

You have a problem with people who hold the slave shite against him, it is bullshite.

You then turn around and want to make sure that MLK is judged the same so you throw out how he was adulterous and anti-Vietnam.

Why? Why are you choosing MLK to make sure everyone gets the record straight on? Washington owning slaves has as much to do with MLK being adulterous when it comes to why they are celebrated.

You come off as wanting to get history correct in the same way as the anti-statue people.
This post was edited on 1/20/20 at 1:09 pm
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:09 pm to
I'd think I would have A bigger problem with the whole he didn't stop rape thing than infidelity.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:10 pm to
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A bigger problem with the whole he didn't stop rape thing than infidelity.


Allegedly
Posted by stout
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:12 pm to
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You admit that Washington should be judged for owning slaves because he is celebrated as commander in chief and president.


No. I said the opposite. I said it's silly to pick and choose what we are offended over based on today's social norms and then use those to condemn and try to discredit people from history. If we are going to do so then MLK should be treated to the same standard but he isn't. I have repeated this numerous times. Maybe you are reading what you want to read but you are literally misquoting what I said.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:13 pm to
I wrote should instead of shouldn't.

Updated my post.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:14 pm to
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I wrote should instead of shouldn't.

Updated my post.


My comment of...


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If we are going to do so then MLK should be treated to the same standard but he isn't.


...still applies
Posted by HT713
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:15 pm to
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Why? Why are you choosing MLK to make sure everyone gets the record straight on?







who's to say really. could be anything.... who knows
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:16 pm to
So, you want Washington judged for the slavery or you don't?

My stance is Washington shouldn't be judged for the slavery and MLK shouldn't be judged for the adultery.

They are seperate from why they are celebrated.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:18 pm to
I don't. It's clear this thread was to point out the hypocrisy in doing it to others (Columbus in the OP) but giving MLK a pass.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:22 pm to
I don't think there is a lack of people making sure he doesn't get a pass.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:28 pm to
The difference is they are immediately dismissed as racist whereas an argument to remove statues of white men is seen as a perfectly acceptable debate to have.
Posted by TigerChief10
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:29 pm to
We simply want everyone to play by the same rules. Whether you're a conservative or a leftist we should all be operating under the same set of rules. If we were, MLK would be getting shredded today.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:34 pm to
Clinton and Kennedy are the only other two major figures I can think of that their infidelities define them when it comes to criticism. It's an easy storyline to find on any powerful person through history and seldom undermines what they accomplished.

I guess Henry the VIII as well, but he rewrote God with his infidelity.

The shots against him having affairs isn't trying to show a balanced image in history, it is just trying to make a dislikable figure.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:35 pm to
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We simply want everyone to play by the same rules. Whether you're a conservative or a leftist we should all be operating under the same set of rules. If we were, MLK would be getting shredded today.


Your personal convictions should remain despite the political party committing the act.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:37 pm to
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it is just trying to make a dislikable figure.


WTF do you think they're doing to others when they do the same?
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:38 pm to
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The difference is they are immediately dismissed as racist



Nobody has accused you of being racist in this thread so drop the victim mentality.
Posted by HT713
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:40 pm to
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The difference is they are immediately dismissed as racist


no they aren't. that is, like most of your beliefs, completing imagined and virtually impossible to prove.

here's links from several left-leaning orgs that talk about how to deal with the shitty reality of his life and his fricked up mistakes. it's not swept under the rug or dismissed at all.

LINK


LINK

LINK

LINK

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an argument to remove statues of white men is seen as a perfectly acceptable debate to have


can you at least admit that MAYBE what those white fellers did was a little different than being an unabashed poonhound?


This post was edited on 1/20/20 at 1:41 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:40 pm to
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WTF do you think they're doing to others when they do the same?


Not excusing it. Doing so is the wrong way to go about it.

I would tell them the same thing.
This post was edited on 1/20/20 at 1:41 pm
Posted by stout
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:40 pm to
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Nobody has accused you of being racist in this thread so drop the victim mentality.



Oh wow...what a victory. That totally proves that he doesn't get a pass based on race.

Maybe I should go on CNN or MSNBC and say what I have said here and see how I am labeled.
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