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re: Smoothie King announces its moving HQ from Louisiana to Dallas, Texas

Posted on 4/24/18 at 6:26 pm to
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
45186 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 6:26 pm to
While North Dallas certainly doesn’t have the charm of Louisiana, it more than makes up for it in quality of life.

You don’t sit on traffic in Plano or Frisco. You likely work within 15-20 minutes if your home. Few people commute downtown anymore.

You can’t find a home in Frisco for $400k anymore. Too many people want to move here.

I know all my neighbors. Since the elementary schools are based in neighborhoods, you know everyone. Kids all walk to school together. All school events are neighborhood gatherings. Kids’ sports teams practice in neighborhood fields. I had to go make friends outside of my neighborhood for a little privacy
This post was edited on 4/24/18 at 6:29 pm
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 6:33 pm to
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What taxes are you talking about?


A sales tax for one that has done nothing at all.

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And IIRC, not one company has cited those lawsuits as a reason for moving.


Well it sure as shite isn't helping to attract more oil and gas here.

There's a reason why we're being left out of the shale revolution that's booming across the south and Texas.

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I didn't say JBE is helping but it is certainly lazy to assert that he's completely the reason for why Louisiana is in the shape it is in.


It's also irresponsible to dismiss him as just simply more shite on the pile. He's the first piece of shite you shovel away.

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Acting as if electing Republicans, especially the lot that exist in Louisiana, will suddenly turn this state into some kind of business powerhouse is laughable.


I'm a kind of guy that's always willing to vote for a pro business and tax friendly democrat like Kip Holden or a 90s version of Bill Clinton and he has a record to back that up. I would vote for Kip over JBE in a goddamn heartbeat.

JBE is nothing like those besides the letter D by their names.

As for republicans, I've always said that a lot of them are socialist democrats with an R by their name to win elections. John Alario, Julie Stokes, Martiny for example.

It's why we need a business friendly conservative as Governor to beat them the frick down.
Posted by Melvin Spellvin
proud dad of 2 A&M honor grads
Member since Jul 2015
1676 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 6:33 pm to
really dude, go back in history starting with or before Huey Long, Edwin Edwards etc and then have the gall or ignorance to tell this group that LA has "ONLY started to go to shite with JBE"...
This post was edited on 4/24/18 at 6:41 pm
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171955 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 6:36 pm to
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You can’t find a home in Frisco for $400k anymore


You can find that all day in Frisco. It’s towards $300k and below where it starts to fizzle out. Zillow has $320-400k all day.

Now getting an offer accepted is another story
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 6:36 pm to
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Louisiana was AWESOME under the great Republican Jindal and ONLY started to go to shite with the LIBERAL JBE went in office



Bro I already said that Jindal was a fraud earlier and I have had nothing but pure malice and rage in my heart for his name.

He was a pure political chameleon that was obsessed with the White House so bad that he completely abandoned Louisiana and tried to paper over the the fiscal situation with gimmicks, one time money and more smoke and mirrors long enough to get out of town.

There's a reason why Jindal had an approval rating that was worse than Obama's in his last year in office.

His presidential run crashing and burning months before Iowa was poetic justice.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171955 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 6:38 pm to
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There's a reason why we're being left out of the shale revolution that's booming across the south and Texas.


The price of gas?

And Texas is flaring natural gas. The shite the shale in Louisiana is rich with.
This post was edited on 4/24/18 at 6:52 pm
Posted by Northshore Saint
Loranger, LA
Member since Feb 2013
1864 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 6:39 pm to
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Another example of JBE anti business platform



The Legislature is majority Republican and has been for a while. Louisiana voters are overwhelmingly Republican, the state has gone red every presidential election since George W Bush's first run. Where has their pro business savvy gotten us over the last 20 to 30 years? You think if Jeff Landry becomes the next governor that he's going to magically turn things around? Please
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
120223 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 6:39 pm to
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A sales tax for one that has done nothing at all


Which tax? And how is it crippling the middle class?

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Well it sure as shite isn't helping to attract more oil and gas here.

There's a reason why we're being left out of the shale revolution that's booming across the south and Texas.


I'm not O&G expert but I doubt companies are avoiding profitable commodities because of lawsuits in the beginning stages.

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It's also irresponsible to dismiss him as just simply more shite on the pile. He's the first piece of shite you shovel away.



No, that would be our state constitution.

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I'm a kind of guy that's always willing to vote for a pro business and tax friendly democrat like Kip Holden or a 90s version of Bill Clinton and he has a record to back that up. I would vote for Kip over JBE in a goddamn heartbeat.

JBE is nothing like those besides the letter D by their names.

As for republicans, I've always said that a lot of them are socialist democrats with an R by their name to win elections. John Alario, Julie Stokes, Martiny for example.

It's why we need a business friendly conservative as Governor to beat them the frick down.


Being pro-business isn't the same thing as doing what is necessary to change the way business is done in this state. It's easy to say you are pro- no new taxes, it's another thing to push for a new state constitution, repealing the state income tax, or overhauling public schools.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43080 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 6:42 pm to
I’ve been in Nola since last Thursday and flying back tm. The biggest thing that I saw was how fricked the roads have become.

I do like all the gentrification happening downtown and in the touristy areas. There are still great things about New Orleans.

I wonder how this move will effect the naming rights to the Blender. I guess not much since the Dome
is sponsored by Benz for now.

After walking along the river and in the French Quarter, it reminded me why people do love this place. It’s sad that it cannot keep great businesses here.

If I’m being honest I’m tired of companies moving to DFW now. Housing is becoming a nightmare to buy into.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
120223 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 6:43 pm to
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The Legislature is majority Republican and has been for a while. Louisiana voters are overwhelmingly Republican, the state has gone red every presidential election since George W Bush's first run. Where has their pro business savvy gotten us over the last 20 to 30 years? You think if Jeff Landry becomes the next governor that he's going to magically turn things around? Please


It's easy to say you won't raise taxes and jerk off O&G. It's not as easy to do the hard things necessary to improve this state's business climate long term. The kind of politicians we elect certainly are not concerned with the big picture.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 6:59 pm to
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Which tax? And how is it crippling the middle class?


Oh I'm sorry I forgot something, not only is the new sales tax hurting the middle class, it's also hurting the poor as well and JBE had the audacity to push a new Gas tax as well.

Thankfully he didn't have the political capital for that.

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I'm not O&G expert but I doubt companies are avoiding profitable commodities because of lawsuits in the beginning stages.



Companies are risk averse as shite. They're not going to be bogged down in courtroom battles especially when they could make that same profit elsewhere and not miss a beat at all.

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No, that would be our state constitution.


Bro, you're insane if you are ok with the political twin of Edwin Edwards presiding over a constitutional convention.

Until JBE is gone and a legit pro business conservative replaces him, no constitutional convention should ever take place.

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it's another thing to push for a new state constitution, repealing the state income tax, or overhauling public schools.


Dude, JBE wants to keep and is trying to double down on all of that bullshite and you're talking to me about bum frick pols from nowheresville being a bigger problem.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
120223 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 7:02 pm to
You still have not elaborated on these crippling taxes. I am not asking for much.

Riddle me this, if pro business conservatives are so important, and not the area's workforce, infrastructure, etc - why are so many of the most thriving cities ran by liberals? Does Boston need a pro-business conservative? Austin? Silicon Valley? Seattle? New York City? Or perhaps, there are more things having to do with an area's business climate than whatever politician is sitting in office.
This post was edited on 4/24/18 at 7:03 pm
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
11315 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 7:08 pm to
How long until the saints move to Texas?
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 7:10 pm to
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No. I’m pretty sure it’s bc they’re scared of culture


You don't see much "culcha" around the Lakeway Center, where their offices are.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 7:21 pm to
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You still have not elaborated on these crippling taxes.


You know what the raise in the sales tax is for?

More more money on the pile of shite that's the city tax, parish tax, school board tax, School Board EFID tax, and a street sewer tax.

All of that shite and nothing to show for it. The roads still suck arse, schools are still nothing than day care center for dindus and in ascension parish, I can still smell the sewers coming up.

If this is what I'm getting, then the raise need to go the frick away.

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Riddle me this, if pro business conservatives are so important, and not the area's workforce, infrastructure, etc - why are so many of the most thriving cities ran by liberals? Does Boston need a pro-business conservative? Austin? Silicon Valley? Seattle? New York City?


Maybe its because they don't tolerate blatant corruption, laziness and incompetency from public officials that set the city's fiscal policy and actually has the right demographics to thrive.

Another factor is that they're in states that has competent, clean and functional state governments unlike Louisiana has with JBE and the legislature.

Until we really fix the rot of our problems, we won't be able to attract the right demographics to improve this state.
Posted by TigerFred
Feeding hamsters
Member since Aug 2003
27818 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 7:31 pm to
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even if Louisiana decided to just stop catering to the underclass, there is still a lack of sizeable middle to upper middle class to help carry the state. The culture of the state just generally doesn't seem to care about education or social mobility. It cares about eating crawfish, drinking, and having a good time


They sure seem to give a shite about TOPS. The problem is that many of those that do gradualte will find jobs elsewhere.

If the politicians would have a little it of a pro-business mentality, they would encourage those kids that graduate from a state University to stick around by giving incentives to stay in state. Give businesses reasons to stay instead of reasons to leave.

For the guy who thinks businesses should be loyal and stay no matter what, those businesses want to be successful and not go bankrupt.

New Orleanians love to say “It ain’t dere no more “. Well wake the frick up. Dey gone because Dey tried to stick around but couldn’t survive because of culcha, piss poor legislation, employees with shitty attitudes, lack of quality management, and I could go on and on.
Posted by tsunami11
Bayou Rigaud
Member since Jul 2011
184 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 7:43 pm to
You are born out of a dogs arse with stupidity
Posted by tigercross
Member since Feb 2008
5060 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:12 pm to
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Because people like me who have never really left Louisiana except for vacation can't understand why they would. What does Dallas have that St. Tammany for example doesn't? Of course not every parish in Louisiana will be that competitive, but we should have some parts that are.


Solid troll.

The goal for a company is to earn money for the owners, not “stay loyal to where they’re from”.

One way a company improves is by hiring better employees. The DFW area has thousands of graduates from UTD, SMU, Dallas, and TCU every year. The only university within 45 minutes of New Orleans that is competitive with those schools is Tulane, which only graduates a small number each year.

Salaries being equal, Dallas is an easy choice for a rational decision maker. No state income tax and a sales tax at 8.25% vs 10+ in NO and Mandeville. Yeah, property taxes are higher, but you can send your kids to public school and you get good roads/municipal services.

Dallas has a team in each of the big 4 leagues plus an MLS squad. Many more big name acts tour through there compared to NO.

There are daily non-stop intercontinental flights to a variety of destinations. This is important to young professionals with disposable income. And also to the CEO and senior staff of smoothie king who live in Korea.

But other than that New Orleans is a great business environment.

Note: I live in New Orleans and could get a 25% salary bump if I wanted to move to TX. I would never, because it has a complete vacancy in the spot where Louisiana has a soul.
Posted by Eightballjacket
Member since Jan 2016
7917 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:27 pm to
The way that I see it, most Republicans in Louisiana are socially conservative populists. They talk a big game on social issues, but if there's a government expenditure that could benefit them, then their hands are quick to grab it.

I've never been a big fan of targeting individual businesses with incentives. It's much more to our advantage to think long term and build a workforce and infrastructure that keeps companies here and attracts new ones. But that takes decades to do.
Posted by Spasweezy
Unfortunately, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2014
7195 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:45 pm to
Way to go Louisiana!
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