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re: Since when did full size non luxury suv become 80k?

Posted on 2/8/23 at 1:22 pm to
Posted by H2O Tiger
Delta Sky Club
Member since May 2021
7954 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 1:22 pm to
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with 2, its more than enough for us. I could see where 3 or 4 could be a problem.


Birth control is cheaper than 3 row SUV's
Posted by BRL79
Member since Mar 2014
3125 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 1:31 pm to
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Because it’s not just vehicles that sticker shock me. Everything is much more expensive across the board.

Absolutely
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
7477 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 1:34 pm to
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That include Alpharetta?


Yeah, Milton formerly Alpharetta. We avoid ATL at all costs.
I wish there was a bypass to get around it, and 285 doesn't count.
Posted by Gorilla Ball
Az via La
Member since Feb 2006
13221 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 1:43 pm to
You didn’t have to buy a new vehicle
Posted by Gorilla Ball
Az via La
Member since Feb 2006
13221 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 1:45 pm to
I have a GC and I parked next to a Tahoe yesterday and I was shocked about how big the damn thing is
Posted by MC5601
Tyler, Texas
Member since Jan 2010
4283 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 2:23 pm to
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When middle income families starting buying 300k “starter” homes


I wish I could find a $300k starter home in Dallas. Closer to $450k here
Posted by MintBerry Crunch
Member since Nov 2010
5961 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 2:26 pm to
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Birth control is cheaper than 3 row SUV's


Yeah, but I guess frick everyone who wants a big family?

And yeah, it'll eventually be 4 kids. It's 3 right now.
This post was edited on 2/8/23 at 2:29 pm
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33584 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 2:43 pm to
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$359k.

3br/2ba - 728 square feet.
Thats fricking insane. First off, how the frick do you fit 3br and 2ba into only 728 sq/ft?

Secondly, that’s $493 sq/ft. That’s utterly ridiculous. It better be brand new and have every fricking amenity available and high end luxuries.
Posted by H2O Tiger
Delta Sky Club
Member since May 2021
7954 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 2:45 pm to
No, but like anything else, you have to pay to play
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73274 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 3:06 pm to
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Ok. Order one that isn't that Z71/High Country

The problem is a brand new z71 cost around $30k 20 years ago and now it costs nearly 3x that. That is ridiculous. The prices of new cars, in general, are ridiculous. Tahoes/Suburbans were originally marketed as a middle class affordable vehicle that could double as a car toting kids around while also having off-road capabilities. If you wanted a luxury SUV, you could buy an Escalade or Rover.

I'm on my third Tahoe.

My first was a 2004 Z71 bought in 2006 w/ ~20k miles for a sticker price of $26,000

My next was a 2008 LTZ bought in 2012 w/ ~55k miles for a sticker price of ~$32,000

My current is a 2017 z71 bought in 2021 w/ ~19k miles for a sticker price of ~$50,000

I essentially bought the same model SUV 16 years apart from my first that was 2 years older with similar mileage for double the cost. I'd like to buy new but not a chance I'm paying $80k+ for a Tahoe. I just paid to extend the factory bumper to bumper warranty for 3 additional years and 75k more miles.
This post was edited on 2/8/23 at 3:14 pm
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
30509 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 3:08 pm to
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The problem is a brand new z71 cost around $30k 20 years


Prices are ridiculous, but this is simply not true.

I had an 04 yukon SLT that was pretty well optioned, but not top of the line. The sticker was $46k.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
92093 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 3:09 pm to
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Tahoes/Suburbans were originally marketed as a middle class affordable vehicle that could double as a car toting kids around while also having off-road capabilities. If you wanted a luxury SUV, you could buy an Escalade or Rover.



how about one of these bad boys?

LINK

my dad had one of these with a 429 and mobile phone in it went on my first date as driver in it
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298489 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 3:11 pm to
Those old Suburbans were more crew vehicles than suburban rigs, it seems. Had bench seats, etc.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73274 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 3:12 pm to
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I had an 04 yukon SLT that was pretty well optioned, but not top of the line. The sticker was $46k.

My buddy bought a brand new Tahoe, fully stocked, in 2001 for around $30k. That's what my baseline was when coming up with that number.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
92093 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 3:13 pm to
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Those old Suburbans were more crew vehicles than suburban rigs,


yeah, those things were basically vans with different door configuration
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
7477 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 4:05 pm to
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Thats fricking insane. First off, how the frick do you fit 3br and 2ba into only 728 sq/ft?


It isn't new. It's just convenient to call centers, shopping, etc.

Looks like the kitchen is barely big enough for one person, so that's where they really cut back on space. I'd imagine the garage is never actually used for a car.

Link the property in question
This post was edited on 2/8/23 at 7:44 pm
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
7477 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 4:14 pm to
I pulled up our invoice from the Honda Odyssey we bought in 2016.

$29,703/$32,296 all-in - and that was brand spanking new, folks.

Same model at the same dealer today, $41,905 before taxes and other bullshite.

Needless to say, we just opted to keep the van forever. Will be curious to see if prices regress or just level off.

I see more and more people listing "used" vehicles for absurd new car prices these days on Facebook, though. Lots of people bought high and are regretting it.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73274 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 4:16 pm to
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I see more and more people listing "used" vehicles for absurd new car prices these days on Facebook, though

It's getting better, but production of new cars was so bad during COVID that used cars were impossible to find for awhile, so because of that they were being sold for ridiculous prices. Know more than a few people who actually made money on vehicles they purchased 3-4 years prior, which should never happen for a depreciating asset like a car.
This post was edited on 2/8/23 at 4:17 pm
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
12366 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 4:21 pm to
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I see more and more people listing "used" vehicles for absurd new car prices these days on Facebook, though. Lots of people bought high and are regretting it.


Have some friends at the local dealerships. Dealer "A" had a used 2021 Tahoe AT4 w 26k miles. Said they were asking $82k and sold it for that. I said no way. New ones weren't that much.

Dealer "B" about a week later got in a new 2022 Tahoe AT4 and was selling it for $78k.

Decided to hold on to what I have. Its ridiculous.
Posted by DarkDrifter
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2011
5685 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 4:33 pm to
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You didn’t have to buy a new vehicle


Actually I did, Some a-hole with no insurance in BR ruined my 2 yr old Expidition I was perfectly happy with..
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