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re: Should we rebuild in LP and AP?

Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:45 pm to
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:45 pm to
There is a part of Maryland that got 6 inches of rain a few weeks ago and had major flooding.

No matter where you live, there is always the risk of disaster. Flood, earthquake, tornado, hurricane, whatever.

You just need to prepare and mitigate
Posted by Halftrack
The Wild Blue Yonder
Member since Apr 2015
2763 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:46 pm to
So keep building in LP & AP, don't raise the flood elevations, don't build the Comite diversion, keep on boiling crawfish and bitchin' when it floods?
This post was edited on 8/18/16 at 2:47 pm
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
11121 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:49 pm to
We can either continue to engineer ways to divert our water away from us or just let it o it's natural path.
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
19059 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:50 pm to
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So keep building in LP & AP, keep on boiling crawfish and bitchin' when it floods?


BR and Chad, cut the shite!
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
66462 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:50 pm to
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You do realize it was something like 5 or 6 times the daily output of the Mississippi right.




try 80

saw it on tv
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118270 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:53 pm to
I'm done. Just reading.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41609 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:53 pm to
quote:

So keep building in LP & AP, don't raise the flood elevations, don't build the Comite diversion, keep on boiling crawfish and bitchin' when it floods?


Where I did say we should not make any changes?

Maybe if those parishes upgraded their infrastructure from country-fied open ditch drainage, we can make things better for the future.

And I can pretty much guarantee the Comite diversion will get funded within the year. That's how Congress/ACOE operates - have a plan, don't do it, pay out 50X cost of plan in damages, then in authorizing payment for the 50X, add in the cost of the project.

I'm also curious if Congress/FEMA will end up doing ICC payments to pay for house raising.
Posted by mt1
LV
Member since Nov 2006
7736 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:53 pm to
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I'll be even more honest. I'd move to NO East right now before AP or LP

Posted by CapperVin
Member since Apr 2013
10661 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:54 pm to
Garland?
Posted by Halftrack
The Wild Blue Yonder
Member since Apr 2015
2763 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:56 pm to
You put sausage in your boil mix?
Posted by SippyCup
Gulf Coast
Member since Sep 2008
7082 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:56 pm to
If we decided to abandon every city where a natural disaster occurred we wouldnt have a place to live. Sure, we can build smarter but at what cost? Do you raise every home because of a 0.1 percent chance? Your not safe on higher ground so moving north isn't a viable option. You have to consider the odds of this ever happening again before you decide to completely abandon entire cities/towns.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
108716 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:57 pm to
So are yall saying they should mandate all the homes be rebuilt like beach homes on stilts in those areas? I just can't see that happening.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118270 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 3:00 pm to
It's already happening all over this part of the state.

It can happen over there too.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
108716 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 3:03 pm to
It is? Like whole subdivisions on stilts?
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 3:06 pm to
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If we let every place go that was below a certain elevation for fear of flooding, you probably wouldn't see anything south of I-10 settled. The coastal parishes are low-lying areas, can't change that. Should they have been settled? Maybe not, but that's what makes the people of this part of the state so resilient. It knocks you down, you get back up. Maybe if this was not all most of these people ever knew, you might be able to convince them to leave it behind. But for most, these are their homes. They aren't going to leave.


This is all perfectly fine, but if they want to continue living in a place that is going to flood let them pay for it, not the tax payer.don't encourage it by continuing to provide federal funded flood insurance for areas that are going to flood. This was a once in a 1000 year event but the places that flooded that had never flooded before were the exception, it was not a big surprise that almost area on the flood maps where flood insurance was required was flooded.
Posted by Halftrack
The Wild Blue Yonder
Member since Apr 2015
2763 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 3:08 pm to
I say cut the losses. Double or triple flood insurance rates, raise base flood elevation by 4 feet. See people flock to WBR and re-gentrification of NBR.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
66462 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

This was a once in a 1000 year event but the places that flooded that had never flooded before were the exception, it was not a big surprise that almost area on the flood maps where flood insurance was required was flooded.


i don't care for the 1000 year event when we haven't been here 1/2 that time frame. i understand its just a unit of measure and probability but now people can't say its impossible to flood at their home.

Posted by SippyCup
Gulf Coast
Member since Sep 2008
7082 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 3:10 pm to
Find me a place where there is no 0.1 percent chance of a flood.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30723 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 3:10 pm to
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So keep building in LP & AP, don't raise the flood elevations, don't build the Comite diversion, keep on boiling crawfish and bitchin' when it floods?



Who's bitching?
Last time it flooded was 30 years ago.

Of course they should do some things to help mitigate this in the future, like the Comite diversion, but there isn't much you can do when 30"+ of rain falls down in a day or two.
Are we to look at every region in the state, and the country, and plan for what if 30" of rain falls in 48 hours here?

shite happens. Every now and then Mother Nature lets us know she's still the boss and there isn't a god damn thing we can do to stop her from fricking with us.
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Faulkner County
Member since Jun 2009
15766 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 3:14 pm to
quote:

If we let every place go that was below a certain elevation for fear of flooding, you probably wouldn't see anything south of I-10 settled. The coastal parishes are low-lying areas, can't change that. Should they have been settled? Maybe not, but that's what makes the people of this part of the state so resilient. It knocks you down, you get back up. Maybe if this was not all most of these people ever knew, you might be able to convince them to leave it behind. But for most, these are their homes. They aren't going to leave.

You nailed it.

I lived in S. Louisiana for 3 1/2 years and my views of the people down there mirror yours. People that are born and raised down there don't leave (the vast majority). S Louisiana is its' own little country.
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