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Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:20 pm to BRgetthenet
well good for you, but evidently not well enough. my dad is dead.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:21 pm to Nado Jenkins83
If we keep developing at the current pace its not a matter of if it's just when
Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:21 pm to Halftrack
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We basically let NO East go. Louisiana is sinking.
How much of NOLA is above sea level?
Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:22 pm to BRgetthenet
are we really going to argue about this now?
Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:24 pm to Chad504boy
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are we really going to argue about this now?
No, let's just go ahead and build another 40,000 homes and then talk about it.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:29 pm to Halftrack
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We basically let NO East go. Louisiana is sinking. Maybe we should raise the minimum flood elevation 6' and let most of LP and AP go. Otherwise, through FEMA, we will be paying for years to keep fixing all this stuff. Let it go?
Sure. The flood mapping was fairly accurate with the areas flooded and the crests of the rivers. We won't rebuild LP and AP if simulations are ran to where all areas must be able to contain 3' of fricking rain in a little over 24 hr period. If your home and the rest doesn't live up to that then LP EBR and AP get to come bulldoze the ones that fail the simulation. Seem fair?
Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:29 pm to Halftrack
he wasn't talking to you
Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:29 pm to LSUBoo
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But the cost will go up. No more ticky-tacky cheapo quick build homes 'flooding' LP and AP.
As far as AP is concerned I've noticed that most of the newer homes and subdivisions built in the last 10-20 years didn't flood. The older ones did (See St. Amant and Sorrento) My S/D was started a few years prior to Katrina(1st filing) the 2nd filing was completed quickly after Katrina. Out of hundreds of homes only about a dozen had water damage.
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Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:31 pm to Halftrack
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And the odds of each occurring are rising.
Link.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:31 pm to LSUBanker
Because the new ones pushed the water onto the old ones.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:31 pm to Halftrack
I don't think it's a question of whether or not to rebuild. It's a question of what can be done to improve the water flow situation in the surrounding areas, and it may not take THAT much.
There could be major canals and reservoirs dug, as well as bayous deepened and expanded with the parameters of this storm used as a guide. Spanish Lake can be dug out and have emergency waterways to divert water to it. Large pumps can be installed all over the major and minor waterways that send water to the Mississippi and collection reservoirs somewhere outside of the city. Current waterways can be dramatically drudged and widened at choke points and bottlenecks, and have emergency offshoots that only flow in high water. Im sure the genius engineers that do this for a living can come up with the simplest way to prevent this from happening on this scale again.
I've been curious how a metro without so many waterways and bayous would've fared in the same circumstances. At some point, the rivers and canals go from helping to hurting when it comes to flooding, but who knows how it would've changed this situation.
There could be major canals and reservoirs dug, as well as bayous deepened and expanded with the parameters of this storm used as a guide. Spanish Lake can be dug out and have emergency waterways to divert water to it. Large pumps can be installed all over the major and minor waterways that send water to the Mississippi and collection reservoirs somewhere outside of the city. Current waterways can be dramatically drudged and widened at choke points and bottlenecks, and have emergency offshoots that only flow in high water. Im sure the genius engineers that do this for a living can come up with the simplest way to prevent this from happening on this scale again.
I've been curious how a metro without so many waterways and bayous would've fared in the same circumstances. At some point, the rivers and canals go from helping to hurting when it comes to flooding, but who knows how it would've changed this situation.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:38 pm to Halftrack
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Because the new ones pushed the water onto the old ones.
This is debatable. The s/d that was built next to us had a huge retaining pond and it didn't overflow. It kept the homes in that s/d from flooding.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:40 pm to RazorBroncs
The easy solution is big arse pumps to put bluff swamp/bayou manchac into the Mississippi River.
Not cheap, but very effective. The Mississippi River wouldn't rise an inch in New Orleans
Not cheap, but very effective. The Mississippi River wouldn't rise an inch in New Orleans
Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:42 pm to LSUBanker
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As far as AP is concerned I've noticed that most of the newer homes and subdivisions built in the last 10-20 years didn't flood. The older ones did (See St. Amant and Sorrento) My S/D was started a few years prior to Katrina(1st filing) the 2nd filing was completed quickly after Katrina. Out of hundreds of homes only about a dozen had water damage.
Newer subdivisions likely had house pads that were built up higher and had more requirements for water retention than older ones.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:42 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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The easy solution is big arse pumps to put bluff swamp/bayou manchac into the Mississippi River.
Brilliant idea. Bayou Manchac was once connected to Ms. River.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:42 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
You do realize it was something like 5 or 6 times the daily output of the Mississippi right.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:42 pm to Halftrack
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We basically let NO East go
Really? Because I seem to recall a shitton of money being poured into that area.
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