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re: Should We Have Professional Jurors?
Posted on 6/7/26 at 6:40 am to ChatGPT of LA
Posted on 6/7/26 at 6:40 am to ChatGPT of LA
Un coded AI take over for Jury Duty.
But it would swing both ways too.
But it would swing both ways too.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 6:46 am to PurpleandGold Motown
It would be taken over by purple hair liberals like teachers have been
Posted on 6/7/26 at 7:31 am to The Boat
Yes a govt job with a basic wage and no chance for promotion would be taken over by your current government workers - not the people I want on a jury if I’m innocent
Posted on 6/7/26 at 7:52 am to PurpleandGold Motown
George Soros would be funding juror schools the next day.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 7:54 am to liz18lsu
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People who know the law, are impartial.
I hear that Sasquatch knows the law and is impartial, probably just as easy to find, though always a little blurry.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 7:58 am to VooDude
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It’s bullshite when you have to take off from a high pressure job for this.
The 11 downvoters to your post have probably never sat thru the shitshow that is a petit jury. I find the entire process of jury selection to be an affront to any law abiding, tax paying citizen
Posted on 6/7/26 at 8:01 am to liz18lsu
quote:If we could ensure this, we wouldn't need juries, we could just rely on bench trials.
People who know the law, are impartial.
If you could remove potential corruption, absolutely.
This board gets more Hobbesian by the day.
This post was edited on 6/7/26 at 8:05 am
Posted on 6/7/26 at 8:02 am to tigerinthebueche
quote:Agreed, it’s great for people without real jobs though where you just clock in and out and go through the motions.
The 11 downvoters to your post have probably never sat thru the shitshow that is a petit jury. I find the entire process of jury selection to be an affront to any law abiding, tax paying citizen
Posted on 6/7/26 at 8:25 am to PurpleandGold Motown
No. Just make state jury duty similar to federal jury duty. Almost nobody gets off.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 8:43 am to liz18lsu
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People who know the law, are impartial.
This was said as a joke, right?
Posted on 6/7/26 at 8:46 am to Gravitiger
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If we could ensure this, we wouldn't need juries, we could just rely on bench trials.
This board gets more Hobbesian by the day.
They don't what that means, or care.
Both parties would accept a dictatorship at this point, I believe.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:34 am to PurpleandGold Motown
The sci-fi author Heinlein had a partial solution.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:40 am to Centinel
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People who know the law, are impartial.
This was said as a joke, right?
No, not at all. No stake in the game, just what is written, per statute. No emotions, just written law. Why would you think I am joking? Today's juries are emotional and stupid. Why not have someone who is actually educated, regarding the law?
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:53 am to liz18lsu
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No, not at all. No stake in the game, just what is written, per statute. No emotions, just written law. Why would you think I am joking? Today's juries are emotional and stupid. Why not have someone who is actually educated, regarding the law?
You've never actually interacted with any attorneys in your entire life have you?
You truly think lawyers are impartial? Seriously?
I mean have you not paid attention to anything since Trump took office in terms of the left judge shopping and Boasberg tossing injunctions left and right only to have damn near all of them overturned on appeal because they're blatantly partisan decisions?
And you think that won't happen like a motherfricker if juries were all professional lawyers?
I mean just get rid of juries at that point and let judges decide everything since they're "impartial" right?
God damn. Are people incapable of second and third order thinking anymore?
This post was edited on 6/7/26 at 9:57 am
Posted on 6/7/26 at 10:12 am to liz18lsu
quote:lawyers are the scummiest people on the planet too. ironic you must think it is.
People who know the law, are impartial.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 10:17 am to PurpleandGold Motown
Why not send potential jurors options for the week(s) they serve? That way you’d have far fewer people with scheduling issues.
I once got called and was going to be out of the country when they wanted me to report. I’d gladly have served if I’d been allowed to defer even just a week or a month. Instead my only option was to ask to be let out.
I once got called and was going to be out of the country when they wanted me to report. I’d gladly have served if I’d been allowed to defer even just a week or a month. Instead my only option was to ask to be let out.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 10:18 am to PurpleandGold Motown
I was on a jury in Clinton, Louisiana a few years ago. It was a murder trial. As you can imagine the racial mix of the jury was about 40/60.
I was very impressed with how much care and thoughtfulness were displayed by the jury. They were eager to do the right thing and honestly, if I ever go to trial I'd want a jury like that.
We convicted him... It was a case of a thug doing thug things. Everyone agreed and it wasn't much of an issue to get a guilty.
I was very impressed with how much care and thoughtfulness were displayed by the jury. They were eager to do the right thing and honestly, if I ever go to trial I'd want a jury like that.
We convicted him... It was a case of a thug doing thug things. Everyone agreed and it wasn't much of an issue to get a guilty.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 10:24 am to PurpleandGold Motown
There is something magical about number 12-person jury. Twelve!
My experience on juries finds 12 people to mitigate “intelligence” risk you cite and fair / no one sized fits all mindedness (“malleable”). Amazed that 12 people hearing same exact sets of evidence and can settle a fair outcome most of the time.
I think the desire to get back to their lives (vs professionals) is good incentive as is weight of person’s fate, that a professional juror would normalize / habituate, makes current jury selection process relatively effective.
My experience on juries finds 12 people to mitigate “intelligence” risk you cite and fair / no one sized fits all mindedness (“malleable”). Amazed that 12 people hearing same exact sets of evidence and can settle a fair outcome most of the time.
I think the desire to get back to their lives (vs professionals) is good incentive as is weight of person’s fate, that a professional juror would normalize / habituate, makes current jury selection process relatively effective.
This post was edited on 6/7/26 at 10:26 am
Posted on 6/7/26 at 10:28 am to PurpleandGold Motown
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Most intelligent people can get out of jury duty. Most attorneys want "malleable" jurors.
I agree with this based on the last time I was in the pool and went through voir dire. The way some of the folks answered questions from the lawyers AFTER explicit instructions showed either lack of attention or sheer simplicity of intellect and they still got picked.
Also think "professional" jurors would be rife for corruption of the most insidious kind (ie lobbyist type of influence).
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