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re: Should We Have Professional Jurors?

Posted on 6/7/26 at 11:53 am to
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37586 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 11:53 am to
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I find the entire process of jury selection to be an affront to any law abiding, tax paying citizen

The problem is that there really isn’t a much better way to do it.
Posted by liz18lsu
Member since Feb 2009
18056 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 3:44 pm to
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You've never actually interacted with any attorneys in your entire life have you?

You truly think lawyers are impartial? Seriously?

I mean have you not paid attention to anything since Trump took office in terms of the left judge shopping and Boasberg tossing injunctions left and right only to have damn near all of them overturned on appeal because they're blatantly partisan decisions?

And you think that won't happen like a motherfricker if juries were all professional lawyers?

I mean just get rid of juries at that point and let judges decide everything since they're "impartial" right?

God damn. Are people incapable of second and third order thinking anymore?


I’m not sure why a civil conversation is so difficult for you. The foul language says far more about your character than your argument ever could. I work with corporate attorneys, not ambulance chasers, so I’m used to professionalism. I’m genuinely sorry if your past experiences have conditioned you otherwise.

And yes — a professional jury would be incredible. No emotions, as you are prone to grace us with.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12530 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 3:50 pm to
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And yes — a professional jury would be incredible. No emotions, as you are prone to grace us with.
Right, just because someone is a "professional" they automatically obtain the magical power to refrain from using emotion in their decision-making.
Posted by TigerBaitOohHaHa
Member since Jan 2023
2115 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 3:55 pm to
Okay. Now imagine the activist class takes over this profession.
Posted by Eightballjacket
Member since Jan 2016
8033 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 3:59 pm to
It wouldn’t be a bad idea for some complex civil cases, including most med mal.
Posted by liz18lsu
Member since Feb 2009
18056 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 4:00 pm to
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Right, just because someone is a "professional" they automatically obtain the magical power to refrain from using emotion in their decision-making.


Apologies if I imagine these people to be more like engineers than impulsive children.
Posted by Chef Curry
Member since Mar 2019
3121 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 4:02 pm to
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The problem is that there really isn’t a much better way to do it.


They could absolutely do it better when it comes to sitting around for 12 hours to find out if you’re on a jury or not. Leftist havens like BR could actually deter crime to lower the possibility of us law abiding citizens having to waste time in the jury duty clown show.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12530 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 4:06 pm to
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Apologies if I imagine these people to be more like engineers than impulsive children.
How much do you think these jobs would pay? How much education and training do you think would be involved? Who would do the hiring--and what biases might they have?
This post was edited on 6/7/26 at 4:17 pm
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12530 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 4:13 pm to
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I work with corporate attorneys, not ambulance chasers, so I’m used to professionalism.
LOL
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
54959 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 4:15 pm to
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It’s bullshite when you have to take off from a high pressure job for this.


Do you think you’re special or something?
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
10917 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 4:17 pm to
My limited experience made me realize that many people will just go the way that gets them out of the jury room the fastest.

Posted by liz18lsu
Member since Feb 2009
18056 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 4:17 pm to
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Do you think engineers don't have emotions?
Not in their jobs.

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How much do you think these jobs would pay?
As someone with an iota of the law, a little more than a Wendy's employee.

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How much education and training do you think would be involved?
Reading isn't that complicated for most humans, although statutory language can be cumbersome.

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Who would do the hiring--and what bias might they have?
Maybe a non-partial jury
This post was edited on 6/7/26 at 4:19 pm
Posted by VooDude
Member since Aug 2017
3158 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 4:20 pm to
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Do you think you’re special or something?
Define special. Without me, things stop working. People notice. Not a brag, but a fact. If you’re in HR, special education, or something like that, then sure, enjoy your holiday in jury duty judging some dimwit who should have been aborted anyway.
Posted by liz18lsu
Member since Feb 2009
18056 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 4:24 pm to
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enjoy your holiday in jury duty judging some dimwit who should have been aborted anyway.


Just because the people on here can be "special" abortion is never the alternative. It's not a funny joke. Women, playing God, with the lives of the unborn are absolutely horrific. Emotional messes.
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
27443 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 4:27 pm to
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Should We Have Professional Jurors?

That would work about as well as professional politicians has.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12530 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 4:28 pm to
Okay, so you're not actually serious.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12530 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 4:32 pm to
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Not in their jobs.
They never get frustrated with people they work with or projects they have? They never make errors because they are distracted by their outside lives?
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As someone with an iota of the law, a little more than a Wendy's employee.

You expect that person to have the professionalism and cold rationality of your idealized engineer?
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Reading isn't that complicated for most humans, although statutory language can be cumbersome.
That doesn't answer the question. How much "reading" would they be required to do to be qualified?
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Maybe a non-partial jury 
Which defeats the purpose and in your mind doesn't exist (meaning you again don't have a good answer for this question).
This post was edited on 6/7/26 at 4:39 pm
Posted by VooDude
Member since Aug 2017
3158 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 4:33 pm to
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Just because the people on here can be "special" abortion is never the alternative. It's not a funny joke. Women, playing God, with the lives of the unborn are absolutely horrific. Emotional messes.
The alternative is to say immediately guilty, or agree with the rest of the jurors, just to get out of that “obligation.”

Live a clean, smart life and never get yourself into those situations.

I guess this proves OP’s point anyway, doesn’t it? We need pro jurors.
This post was edited on 6/7/26 at 4:41 pm
Posted by liz18lsu
Member since Feb 2009
18056 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 4:36 pm to
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They never get frustrated with people they work with or projects they have? They never make errors because they are distracted by their outside lives?


I applaud you for picking up on the partial sarcasm in my posts. I DO think professional jurors are a good thing. Having the government sort that out is a bad thing. As I previously stated "A jury of your peers" is no longer a thing. Those on trial are not my peers. Thank you for being considerate with me.
Posted by beachdude
FL
Member since Nov 2008
6540 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 5:06 pm to
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