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re: Should JBE promote monoclonal antibodies more, like DeSantis and Abbot?
Posted on 8/25/21 at 8:57 am to GumboPot
Posted on 8/25/21 at 8:57 am to GumboPot
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Should JBE promote monoclonal antibodies more, like DeSantis and Abbot?
At some point I recall hearing that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Shouldn't JBE be promoting the shite out of the prevention part?
Oh wait. Nevermind.
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Posted on 8/25/21 at 8:58 am to Salmon
quote:Most patients are this in Louisiana
mAB treatments are really only effective if received early. A lot of people wait till the symptoms worsen till they seek help and then its too late for mAB treatment.
Patient test positive
Doctor: “I’m going to send you to get an infusion”
Patient: “I feel fine. This virus isn’t anything more than a cold. I’ll take vitamins/ivermectin/etc”
Two days later patients comes in with Oxygen at 90% or lower and it’s too late for the infusion
Posted on 8/25/21 at 8:59 am to Salmon
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It's EUA.
Don't change the rules now.
Look, I'm no expert at reading and interpreting FDA legalease. But you tell me if this means EUA or "authorized":
Coronavirus (COVID-19) Update: FDA Authorizes Monoclonal Antibody for Treatment of COVID-19
Please let me know because yesterday when I read the apparent authorization for the Pfizer vaccine it did not read like Pfizer is out from under its EUA. Sure the FDA authorized the BioNTech-COMIRNATY vaccine (which is unavailable) but the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine (aka, Pfizer) remains under EUA.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:00 am to GumboPot
You can get this in LA. I already know of a few people who have gotten it. But it’s really only if you have it already. AND you have to get it early enough after testing + or you can’t get it for some reason.
It’s not preventative fix, it’s a reactive one. And really fix is the wrong word, it only helps lessen the symptoms after you’ve already gotten sick.
It’s not preventative fix, it’s a reactive one. And really fix is the wrong word, it only helps lessen the symptoms after you’ve already gotten sick.
This post was edited on 8/25/21 at 9:01 am
Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:00 am to GumboPot
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The really good news about mAb is it reduces hospitalizations by 70% to 85%. This is a really good approach to keeping people out of the hospital infected with COVID.
So does the vaccine
Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:01 am to GumboPot
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Look, I'm no expert at reading and interpreting FDA legalease. But you tell me if this means EUA or "authorized":
are you retarded? literally the first sentence
quote:
Today, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration issued an emergency use authorization (EUA) for the investigational monoclonal antibody therapy bamlanivimab for the treatment of mild-to-moderate COVID-19 in adult and pediatric patients.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:01 am to GumboPot
This stuff is the truth. I was nice enough to catch covid right before I went to Christmas at my in laws house last year and gave it to everyone (credit to me). My in laws (who are far from "good health") both went and got the BAM infusion within a few days of positive test and they barely felt a thing. At the time a doctor friend of mine in Shreveport couldn't even give all of his infusions away. I guess now they are in shorter supply but if you catch the vid and you have the opportunity, go take it. My questioning of the vaccine mandates stems from the fact that this works so well and yet is not advertised or talked about at all.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:01 am to Salmon
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2) mAB treatments are really only effective if received early. A lot of people wait till the symptoms worsen till they seek help and then its too late for mAB treatment.
Exactly. If people have the ease and ability to get a CV test they should have the same ease and ability to receive mAb therapy.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:04 am to GumboPot
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If people have the ease and ability to get a CV test they should have the same ease and ability to receive mAb therapy.
They do. If they qualify under the EUA. Just like in TX and Florida.
You are desperately trying to push some narrative that isn't there.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:05 am to GumboPot
My Dad is in a nursing home in NOLA, and he tested positive yesterday. Luckily he is vaccinated. They brought him to EJGH and gave him the infusion, and brought him back to the Nursing home.
The state should be promoting the vaccine, and using the infusion for treatment. Just promoting a treatment doesn't do anything to help preventative measures.
The state should be promoting the vaccine, and using the infusion for treatment. Just promoting a treatment doesn't do anything to help preventative measures.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:06 am to GumboPot
No because I don’t want him doing anything that will change the fact that he will leave the office as a total piece of shite and should be ashamed.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:07 am to the4thgen
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I guess now they are in shorter supply
They ended up pulling the EUA for a couple of the different brands because they lacked effectiveness against delta.
So, we went from something like four available to only one or two.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:07 am to Salmon
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They do. If they qualify under the EUA. Just like in TX and Florida.
You are desperately trying to push some narrative that isn't there.
I just see a way that the overwhelmed hospital situation in Louisiana could have been avoided.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:07 am to Brettesaurus Rex
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It’s not preventative fix, it’s a reactive one. And really fix is the wrong word, it only helps lessen the symptoms after you’ve already gotten sick.
It can probably be used as a preventative treatment (prophylaxis) in lieu of vaccination. Especially in immunocompromised individuals that receive little to no immunity provided by the vaccine or infection. Though I think those trials are behind as the main focus for monoclonal antibodies has been as a post-infection treatment.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:08 am to GumboPot
quote:But you are talking out of your arse
I just see a way that the overwhelmed hospital situation in Louisiana could have been avoided.
Louisiana has been pushing the infusions just like florida and texas
Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:09 am to GumboPot
quote:If only there was a vaccine that could help with this
I just see a way that the overwhelmed hospital situation in Louisiana could have been avoided.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:11 am to GumboPot
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I just see a way that the overwhelmed hospital situation in Louisiana could have been avoided.
You mean like readily available vaccines that are highly effective at reducing hospitalization?
The same reasons why people didn't get vaccinated is the same reason why they don't rush to get the mAB treatment as soon as they test positive. They don't consider COVID a risk until its too late.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:11 am to GumboPot
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I just see a way that the overwhelmed hospital situation in Louisiana could have been avoided.
OH THE IRONY
Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:13 am to lsupride87
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Louisiana has been pushing the infusions just like florida and texas
If Louisiana has a public service website like Florida please let me know.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:14 am to GumboPot
quote:Geez this was hard
If Louisiana has a public service website like Florida please let me know.
LDH webpage looking almost identical to Florida page you linked
LINK
This post was edited on 8/25/21 at 9:15 am
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