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re: should a job give you back the days you missed due to the flooding?

Posted on 8/19/16 at 3:44 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 3:44 pm to
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It's funny you bring these kinds of costs of business up considering a lot of lenders suspend repayment for those affected by natural disasters for at least a few months.


Sure, but none of what you quoted deals with lenders.

I guess I don't see the problem with allowing an employee to use PTO. It's unscheduled, you still get paid, you still have a job, etc.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89369 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 3:48 pm to
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Sure, but none of what you quoted deals with lenders.


I'm just saying that exceptions are usually made in times like these. I can't speak for all those different industries suspending repayment, but I'd imagine at least some of them do just that.

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I guess I don't see the problem with allowing an employee to use PTO. It's unscheduled, you still get paid, you still have a job, etc.


And if they have no PTO, along with no vehicle or roof over their head? frick'em?
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 3:58 pm to
Now that I am off work, that is my dad...
4ft of water in the house all cars ruined but he works in BR and most of those employees live in BR were not impacted. However my dad is taking off 2 weeks to gut/clean his house and his mothers. o

of course I will be there to help after work and on weekends.
Posted by TrebleHook
Member since Jun 2016
1356 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 4:01 pm to
My wife's office doesn't even want to pay her to go up there and clean up after the flood
This post was edited on 8/19/16 at 4:03 pm
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 4:15 pm to
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It's funny you bring these kinds of costs of business up considering a lot of lenders suspend repayment for those affected by natural disasters for at least a few months.


you're so smart I'm sure you could get some lenders to "suspend" some "repayments"

Those folks I mentioned like insurances, leases and advertising are not "lenders"... They're vendors, aka businesses. If I don't pay them, they can't give their employees "the days they missed due to flooding".

Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 4:16 pm to
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Everyone expects gestures of good will from businesses. Why don't we expect it from employees as well?




You're making them money and it would most certainly cost them more than you make to replace you
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89369 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 4:17 pm to
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Those folks I mentioned like insurances, leases and advertising are not "lenders"... They're vendors, aka businesses. If I don't pay them, they can't give their employees "the days they missed due to flooding".


You're aware that suspending repayment doesn't mean just never collecting it, right? Because following the logic of what I quoted leads me to believe you aren't.
Posted by dcw7g
Member since Dec 2003
2231 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 4:42 pm to
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What a fricking pathetically self entitled batch of pricks Americans have become.



Excellent post. It bewilders me that anyone would just expect to get paid for not working. It's great if the business can do it, and I would encourage it, but it's CHARITY, plain and simple. Money for nothing, for those in need. God bless those who can afford to give.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53591 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 4:43 pm to
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I have had both types of employees, ones that bend over backwards and act like the company is theirs (do anything for them) and the ones that are out the door at 4:59 every day no matter what. The latter are good folks and all but they are employees and not part of the family.



And then you have the not so good ones who fit in the latter group, and when they see someone in the former group who has worked themselves to the bone for months asking for and getting a weekend off, to go cry to HR about preferential treatment.

Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
23313 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 4:47 pm to
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You're making them money


No, in this case, you're asking to be paid for NOT making them money. Beyond what they already give you in PTO.

If they can and will do it, great, but you are certainly not entitled to it.
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 6:44 pm to
quote:

quote:
Those folks I mentioned like insurances, leases and advertising are not "lenders"... They're vendors, aka businesses. If I don't pay them, they can't give their employees "the days they missed due to flooding".



You're aware that suspending repayment doesn't mean just never collecting it, right? Because following the logic of what I quoted leads me to believe you aren't.


So, now you've taken this discussion of whether an employee is entitled to get paid for work not done to whether a business owner's lenders will suspend their debt? And a discussion of never repay or just delay it?

Am I supposed to interpolate this to mean that now you would like the biz owner to go back to the employee and ask for him to repay his hours later?

Again, people like insurers, landlords, and advertisers are not lenders. More likely, their the employers that you want free money from, that biz owners will do their best to pay, not "suspend" payment as you suggest.

These same vendors have employees to pay also. I realize this is complicated for you... hence your side of the argument.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 7:07 pm to
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No, in this case, you're asking to be paid for NOT making them money. Beyond what they already give you in PTO.

If they can and will do it, great, but you are certainly not entitled to it.


Not at all entitled. But don't act like you owe your employer anything outside of the hours you put in. You're a valuable asset who could quite easily go make money somewhere else and leave them high and dry.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122525 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 7:43 pm to
quote:

would you expect them


I would not expect it because there is no rule or law that says they have to compensate you for the time you missed because of what happened, however; I think it is the appropriate thing to do.

In other words, expect the worst, hope for the best.
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
8604 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 7:45 pm to
My company will be paying people and I just got notified there is a $400 gift cardfron the company for me to give to one of my reports.

I have been working at his house since lunch on Thursday and will be getting paid.

I work for a good company.
Posted by moffettduck
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Feb 2016
857 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 7:47 pm to
After Katrina, I know my cousin in New Orleans had her job with Harrah's....sh*t.. what DIDN'T they do for her. After everything they did, I became a lifelong customer of theirs.
Posted by nager
Member since Nov 2015
83 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 7:51 pm to
Me wonders what kind of small business owner has the time to troll other equally as stupid posters on TD during work hours.

I call BS.
Posted by Grim
Member since Dec 2013
12489 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 7:55 pm to
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not mandatory, but it sure is nice. when Katrina hit, the company i worked for continued paying everyone 40hrs a week until they could come back to work. I was out for a month and never missed a paycheck

The handouts are pretty nice when the shoe is on the other foot huh?
Posted by Grim
Member since Dec 2013
12489 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 7:59 pm to
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For a place that bitches about entitlement as much as the OT, most of you are hypocrites.

They're only against handouts when the blacks are getting them
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
33219 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 8:17 pm to
You are comparing people who have worked for decades for a company and made it successful to generations of families who never worked a day in their life. Nice.
Posted by moffettduck
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Feb 2016
857 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 8:18 pm to
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