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re: Shortage of Hospital supplies
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:55 pm to LSUJML
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:55 pm to LSUJML
Really sorry to hear that. The home where I am is old but updated and clean and doesn’t smell.
Our DON and ADON are great as is our social worker and business office lady. Most of the nurses are great (nights are lazy) and we have some fantastic CNAs. I'd put my mom there except I don’t live in that town, just drive in. That said, we do have some families from time to time with unrealistic expectations at first and then after a while they see the day to day goings on and understand a little better. My own parents have to be reminded by me from time to time about things regarding the home where my grandmother is. They want good for her but the home does as well.
And you’re right about family taking care but it’s hard and exhausting for those at home. Sometimes they really couldn’t do what the nurses and cnas do.
If you’re ever truly concerned or have complaints not heard or you feel they’re not heard but valid, it is your right to call the state directly.
Our DON and ADON are great as is our social worker and business office lady. Most of the nurses are great (nights are lazy) and we have some fantastic CNAs. I'd put my mom there except I don’t live in that town, just drive in. That said, we do have some families from time to time with unrealistic expectations at first and then after a while they see the day to day goings on and understand a little better. My own parents have to be reminded by me from time to time about things regarding the home where my grandmother is. They want good for her but the home does as well.
And you’re right about family taking care but it’s hard and exhausting for those at home. Sometimes they really couldn’t do what the nurses and cnas do.
If you’re ever truly concerned or have complaints not heard or you feel they’re not heard but valid, it is your right to call the state directly.
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Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:58 pm to NATidefan
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They have 1400 in stock. She says that at least 28 employees would need one a day between night shift and day shift... and that's with wearing the same one between patients all day. Which means they have about a 50 day supply.
Sounds like they have plenty.
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They are trying to stock enough for 100 employees... which means they only currently have a 14 day supply.
I get wanting to be prepared, bit more than tripling the normal workforce and still having a two week supply doesn't sound like they are running low. If they stay at the normal 28 employees per day for 2 or 3 weeks before they even have a case should give her enough time to procure something as production ramps up soon. If they get a case before then, it would make sense to strictly quarantine the affected patient and only allow access to maybe 2 employees per shift with that patient. Then everyone else goes on doing their regular duties and they aren't wasting masks unnecessarily.
Maybe I'm missing something, but it honestly doesn't sound bad at all yet.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 12:01 am to LoveThatMoney
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The lack of masks and ventilators is terrible. This shite should have been taken care of months ago and we'd be South Korea. Working, eating in restaurants, kids in schools. Instead, we have this shite show and probably a global depression. #ThanksOrangeMa
Its not up to the president to track inventory of ppe for every private business in the us or the world numb nuts.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 1:11 am to LSUJML
I’ve been wearing the same N95 mask for 2 weeks now. frick you Oschner
Posted on 3/28/20 at 1:17 am to 7LSU7
Are you in contact with suspected / confirmed patients?
Posted on 3/28/20 at 1:19 am to NATidefan
As someone who works in supply chain and has worked in healthcare, I have little sympathy for the hospitals failure to stock necessary supplies. Often supply budgets are stocked based on anticipated usage from a three year average. That might work for your bench stock at a warehouse.
It does not correlate in healthcare where there are variances. Unfortunately, hospital administrations don’t really care about variances for pandemics.
Feel bad for the workers though, but this is strictly on those individual hospital administration staffs, policies and budgets.
You stock contingency for things like this. You’re gonna see shortages when something like this hits. Everyone demands the same resources. Piss poor planning.
It does not correlate in healthcare where there are variances. Unfortunately, hospital administrations don’t really care about variances for pandemics.
Feel bad for the workers though, but this is strictly on those individual hospital administration staffs, policies and budgets.
You stock contingency for things like this. You’re gonna see shortages when something like this hits. Everyone demands the same resources. Piss poor planning.
This post was edited on 3/28/20 at 1:21 am
Posted on 3/28/20 at 1:21 am to DiamondDog
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You stock contingency for things like this. You’re gonna see shortages when something like this hits. Everyone demands the same resources. Piss poor planning.
People that are 75 years old have never seen anything like this. How old are you to be telling everyone that they should have planned better? 28?
This post was edited on 3/28/20 at 1:27 am
Posted on 3/28/20 at 1:32 am to fallguy_1978
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People that are 75 years old have never seen anything like this. How old are you mister you should have planned? 28?
Somehow our facilities have stocked 3200 N95 masks a piece for 60 workers at each site. That’s a nearly 60 day supply. We’re O&G.
But okay. I’ll just F off. Obviously, no idea what I’m doing.
Meanwhile dimwit hospitals administrators are making their employees wear homemade bandannas.
It’s about planning, moron.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 1:40 am to DiamondDog
Supply issues were first brought up back around 2003, then brought up again after H1N1 in 2009.
People have been bringing it up and we have been kicking the can down the road for decades.
It was eventually going to become an issue.
People have been bringing it up and we have been kicking the can down the road for decades.
It was eventually going to become an issue.
This post was edited on 3/28/20 at 1:41 am
Posted on 3/28/20 at 2:14 am to LSUJML
Only about 10 confirmed
Posted on 3/28/20 at 3:07 am to NATidefan
Our community has come through big time. All the quilt makers and sewers have produced and donated thousands of masks. With that said, they are not n95. We have a few respiratory therapists in the area that are turning one n95 mask in to 10. It’s pretty cool.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 4:50 am to Unknown_Poster
And by then this will be over and we will have a glut.
Not being negative, but positive we are near enough “the peak” on severe cases especially with real treatment options that work.
Let’s get back to work.
Not being negative, but positive we are near enough “the peak” on severe cases especially with real treatment options that work.
Let’s get back to work.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 5:30 am to NATidefan
Wife is a SICU Nurse at a major hospital in Ohio. We've bought s P95 Respirator type mask for her online from an auto parts shop. We also purchased 7 others for her unit. The unit she works in then purchased about 20 more from a local auto supply shop. They also secured some N95 masks. It's coming down to individual nurses, nurse managers, doctors to secure PPE on their own.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 6:56 am to Dizz
Mask shortage alternative for men
Posted on 3/28/20 at 7:59 am to NATidefan
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"well her employer should have invested more in this or that ahead of time"
No, I wouldn't say that because like everything else purchased in health care, they "expire". And if you use common sense and use it even after its "expired" and get found out by an inspector, the government will make it sound like you committed murder.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 8:19 am to DiamondDog
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does not correlate in healthcare where there are variances. Unfortunately, hospital administrations don’t really care about variances for pandemics. Feel bad for the workers though, but this is strictly on those individual hospital administration staffs, policies and budgets. You stock contingency for things like this. You’re gonna see shortages when something like this hits. Everyone demands the same resources. Piss poor planning.
You’re an idiot. Hospitals run on razor thin margins, if they are profitable at all. Reimbursement is cut every year. You expect them to overstock supplies for every random contingency? How do we know what the next pandemic will be? Maybe the next one will attack the kidneys and we will need 1,000,000 dialysis machines. You think every hospital should have known to have 100 extra ventilators sitting in a warehouse?
And for your information, we received our allocation of PPE from Region 4 emergency preparedness HQ, this week. So there are additional resources.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 8:24 am to Bristol Dawg
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Our community has come through big time. All the quilt makers and sewers have produced and donated thousands of masks. With that said, they are not n95. We have a few respiratory therapists in the area that are turning one n95 mask in to 10. It’s pretty cool
Duke university has figured out that N95’s masks can be re-sterilized in a Sterrad H2O2 sterilizer, which every hospital in America has. 3M, J&J, and the FDA are validating the process. We should have guidance this week.
I’ll provide a link.
LINK
This post was edited on 3/28/20 at 8:33 am
Posted on 3/28/20 at 8:27 am to GusMcRae
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Duke university has figured out that N95’s masks can be re-sterilized in a Sterrad H2O2 sterilizer, which every hospital in America has. 3M, J&J, and the FDA are validating the process. We should have guidance this week.
Or you could just let it sit unused for a few days and rotate them out. The virus doesn't live on the surface for weeks, it's hours to a day at the most. Spray that shite down with lysol and let sit in direct sun for a day or 2.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 8:27 am to NATidefan
That’s not a hospital and the shortage is largely ending. Definitely ending before two weeks is up. Our hospitals are getting them now as needed.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 8:35 am to DiamondDog
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Somehow our facilities have stocked 3200 N95 masks a piece for 60 workers at each site. That’s a nearly 60 day supply. We’re O&G.
You guys don't change masks EVERY time you go in and out of a room. The feds usually have stockpiles for these type of events. For some reason we depleted supply and never reordered. Inexcusable.
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