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re: Shortage of Hospital supplies

Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:14 pm to
Posted by lsuwins3
Member since Nov 2008
1942 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:14 pm to
“I'm having a hard time understanding some of these claims. We have vendors offering N95 masks where they can make roughly 10,000 per day. Where are people looking?”

One distributor I know sold 300,000 thermometers in a day but had orders for 1 million.

The federal government requested 500 million N95 masks. That will put a strain on supply. When you have the whole world requesting products you can’t keep up with demand. Lots of fly by night scammers offering deals , some asking for money up front. We hear about them every day. Or the $9 a mask bit.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36326 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:15 pm to
ACA decimated supplies so no
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:15 pm to
I'm sorry you guys are dealing with that frustration. I get it, you want your grandfather to be safe. I would be upset too.

I would still call and ask exactly what are they doing (besides not allowing visitors) to prevent their residents from getting sick right now and spreading it to others. You have that right to ask.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36787 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:15 pm to
Doublepost
This post was edited on 3/27/20 at 11:17 pm
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37013 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:17 pm to
quote:

some asking for money up front


That's not that unreasonable when dealing with such large quantities. We have had requests for a couple million from companies that we've never heard of. That's a lot of money to put up for someone that may not even pay.

Trying to work out the best possible way to make it fair for both sides.

I am just getting involved in this, although I was getting emails from vendors about a week ago. I just figured I'd my suppliers were contacting me then surely they are already working with other companies. Then today we started getting requests for multiple million piece orders.
This post was edited on 3/27/20 at 11:20 pm
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:17 pm to
quote:

Do nurses / doctors that aren’t seeing / treating Covid patients need all the special gear?




No.


Some hospitals (like mine) is having all staff wear a regular mask all day long that they reuse. However, if you are going into a patient's room that is in isolation(not just COVID)...you take that mask off and put in paper bag for storage...and then put on the needed ppe for that room.


Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40230 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:18 pm to
Our nurses don’t wear gloves to give meds or at least not that I’ve ever seen under normal circumstances. CBGs yes but not for meds.

Also we have gowns and masks but we don’t have many that ever require it really. We do get some on different precautions (c diff, droplet, etc) but not many all all the same time. We don’t go through gobs on a daily basis under normal circumstances.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:20 pm to
quote:

Our nurses don’t wear gloves to give meds


As long as they did proper hand hygiene 1) before preparing meds and 2)in between the patients they are handing meds out to...gloves wouldn't be needed.
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
56500 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:26 pm to
They may use hand sanitizer but they don’t go to washing station, I’ve watched them go room to room with meds
Posted by lsuwins3
Member since Nov 2008
1942 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:29 pm to
“That's not that unreasonable when dealing with such large quantities. We have had requests for a couple million from companies that we've never heard of. That's a lot of money to put up for someone that may not even pay. “

What I”m referring to is random probably brokers or scammers cold calling nursing homes saying, “if you need masks we need a large enough order for the factory to make it” send us a check for $100,000. If you even get your product you have no idea of quality control.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:29 pm to
quote:

They may use hand sanitizer but they don’t go to washing station,


As long as their hands don't become visibly soiled that is ok.

Except....if the room they go into the patient has c diff. Then they should be wearing some gloves (gown as well..again I don't work in a nursing home...but that's what we do in hospital) and MUST wash their hands instead of using hand sanitizer when they leave room because hand sanitizer doesn't kill c diff spores. Soap and water washing doesn't either, but washing your hands mechanically moves the spores off your hands.
This post was edited on 3/27/20 at 11:30 pm
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
56500 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:31 pm to
quote:

As long as their hands don't become soiled that is ok.


It’s just gross to me when they have to help people swallow pills & don’t wear gloves
Or set up a breathing treatment mask with no gloves
No way I could be a nurse
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:32 pm to
Please tell me they are wearing gloves to empty a urinal
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
56500 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:36 pm to
Yes
CNA’s do that
The CNA’s also wear gloves to help him get dressed
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40230 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:37 pm to
Yep — we got one in 2018 and boy she’s Nurse Ratchet with good reason. We see her, we want to run but she’s just doing her job and she is good at it.

But any concerns should be voiced and they should address them with you.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:38 pm to
As soon as I walk up to the nurse's station of the units on the floors if they know who I am I can hear whispers "Infection control, put your drinks away!"
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40230 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:40 pm to
How many beds is this place? a part time DON/ head nurse? That would be insane.

Patients have rights and if you feel his are being violated/jean being harmed you need to ask for the social worker, Director or nurses or administrator. If nothing else you can find out who the Omsbudmen is and call them.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40230 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:41 pm to
Yes yes yes. Coffee gets hidden with a quickness. She’s actually slacked on that a little. I know she shouldn’t but she has.
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
56500 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:48 pm to
Somewhere around 125 I believe

We finally quit going to family meetings because there was no point

I can honestly say the floor nurses & CNA’s treat the residents with respect & do their best to help for the most part

No matter how nice the place is or how much you pay no one is going to take care of your family like you think they need to be taken care of
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:50 pm to
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She’s actually slacked on that a little. I know she shouldn’t but she has.




Likely so stressed out by everything else she just doesn't even pay attention to it

I know I don't right now. Got bigger fish to fry than enforcing an OSHA standard.
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