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re: Sesame Street's Bert and Ernie are out and proud!
Posted on 9/18/18 at 12:52 pm to LSUZombie
Posted on 9/18/18 at 12:52 pm to LSUZombie
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Bert and Ernie have been on the show since it started in 1969
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Mark Saltzman, who joined the "Sesame Street" crew in 1984, cleared it all up by telling Queerty he wrote Bert and Ernie as a gay couple.
So this guy who joined the show 15 years after the characters were introduced decided to write them as a gay couple on his own, even though they weren't necessarily intended to be. Am I reading this correctly?
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Posted on 9/18/18 at 12:54 pm to Poops McDoober
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You're not understanding what I'm saying. What's sexual about that? Nothing. Is there anything sexual about a male/female relationship? No. There isn't a difference between two men loving each other, two women loving each other, or a man and a woman loving each other. You're the one who is adding the sexual context. That child isn't thinking about the two men fricking each other in this situation, you are.
Gays sure are an angry bunch.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 12:55 pm to Poops McDoober
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then you explain to your kid that "grown ups can love whoever they like, just like I married your Mommy." It's not that difficult to explain.
Easy for you to say. You probably aren’t crippled with fear due to repressed homosexual feelings.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 12:56 pm to Poops McDoober
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What's sexual about that? Nothing. Is there anything sexual about a male/female relationship? No. There isn't a difference between two men loving each other, two women loving each other, or a man and a woman loving each other. You're the one who is adding the sexual context.
The problem is that the gay community can't just leave it at 2 guys being friends....they have to make it into labeling fricking characters on one of the longest running children's TV shows as "gay". They were always friends and I'm sure loved each other (I'm certainly not gay but I love my friends), but the labeling made it something else that won't fly in my house for damn sure. Straight people didn't label Bert and Ernie the gay community did.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 12:56 pm to SemperFiDawg
What does another person's actions have to do with you? Especially when it has nothing to do with you? Also, "Moral Law" is an absolute fricking cop-out. Moral Law has nothing more to do with this than you just saying "I don't like queers and I'm going to force you to follow what I think my God wants." So much for individual liberty
Posted on 9/18/18 at 12:56 pm to nvasil1
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So this guy who joined the show 15 years after the characters were introduced decided to write them as a gay couple on his own, even though they weren't necessarily intended to be. Am I reading this correctly?
Yes.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 12:58 pm to LSUZombie
They love to retroactively make kids stuff degenerate. Sickening. Just let them be Bert and Ernie and not let someone with an agenda attach things that weren’t present in their personalities.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 12:58 pm to eScott
I'm not even gay. But, I guess you don't have a counter-arguement because we both know that I'm right. Yet, you don't want to feel like youre on the losing team, so you'll resort to percieved insults?
Posted on 9/18/18 at 1:00 pm to Poops McDoober
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I'm not even gay.
Damn you missed a good chance seems like.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 1:01 pm to shel311
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So you never take your 5 year old out in public, right?
Not to strip clubs.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 1:01 pm to Poops McDoober
Bert and ernie were created in 1969,this guy joined in 84. Sesame Street has already stated that they ar not a gay couple and weren't created to be a gay couple.
You seem mad
You seem mad
This post was edited on 9/18/18 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 9/18/18 at 1:01 pm to LSU316
You just expressed my feelings far better than I did. Labeling them gay moves it past loving one another and makes it sexual in nature. Why did he feel the need to come out and make his announcement if not to make parents discuss homosexuality with their kids who watch the show.
What two consenting adults do in their lives has no impact on me whatsoever and I understand and agree that two people of the same sex can and do love one another enough to spend their lives together so that’s not what I’m even talking about. I’m talking about introducing homosexuality (through the interview not through the show) to viewers who cannot understand any sexuality.
What two consenting adults do in their lives has no impact on me whatsoever and I understand and agree that two people of the same sex can and do love one another enough to spend their lives together so that’s not what I’m even talking about. I’m talking about introducing homosexuality (through the interview not through the show) to viewers who cannot understand any sexuality.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 1:02 pm to RealityTiger
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And furthermore, over 80% (maybe closer to 90%) of all couples out there are heterosexual couples.
10-20% isn't an insignificant number. Though I think discussing that topic should wait until they are older. Which it sounds like the creator has done. Sexuality wasn't an explicit theme of Bert and Ernie.
I don't see an actual issue here.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 1:02 pm to LSUZombie
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Bert and Ernie have been on the show since it started in 1969,
OK, something I agree with.
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and there's always been speculation about the true nature of their relationship.
No there hasn't, though I think it was as early as the late 70s or early 80s that the jokes about that began.
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Mark Saltzman, who joined the "Sesame Street" crew in 1984, cleared it all up by telling Queerty he wrote Bert and Ernie as a gay couple.
Ok, That statement and the following don't add up.
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Bert and Ernie have been on the show since it started in 1969
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He says the 'Sesame' duo is a reflection of his own same-sex relationship and not about pushing an agenda.
Sounds like wishful thinking, gay wishful thinking.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 1:03 pm to eScott
I wish the Corporate sponsors would drop Sesame Street like a hot potato. And then Sesame Street turn around and sue the frick out of this guy.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 1:03 pm to Poops McDoober
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Poops McDoober
I think you've caught the gay.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 1:04 pm to LSUZombie
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So did Kami get it from unsafe sex, or dirty needles?
She was gang raped as a child by a group of men infected with AIDS in hopes that raping a virgin would cure the aids.
Basic kindergarten talk
Posted on 9/18/18 at 1:05 pm to LSUZombie
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Bert and Ernie have been on the show since it started in 1969, and there's always been speculation about the true nature of their relationship. Mark Saltzman, who joined the "Sesame Street" crew in 1984, cleared it all up by telling Queerty he wrote Bert and Ernie as a gay couple.
Except that Bert and Ernie were around for over a decade before Saltzman ever came along.
Can't something (especially when targeted at young children) just not be political or sexual any longer?
Posted on 9/18/18 at 1:06 pm to Bard
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Can't something (especially when targeted at young children) just not be political or sexual any longer?
This is what I’m getting at. Why not just let them be loving friends?
Posted on 9/18/18 at 1:07 pm to RealityTiger
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Sesame Street's Bert and Ernie are out and proud! by RealityTiger
I wish the Corporate sponsors would drop Sesame Street like a hot potato. And then Sesame Street turn around and sue the frick out of this guy
Pampers did. Sort of....
Pampers is ditching ‘Sesame Street’ diapers amid gender concerns (ny post)
pampers reply on people.com
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