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re: Seeing a lot of restaurants are having trouble hiring workers

Posted on 5/3/21 at 2:55 am to
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
22831 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 2:55 am to
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Another is that when Covid shut everything down, an lot of the people in the industry took the opportunity to get out of the industry or move away.

If the government is still paying people to stay home, it's amazing that it's only the ones who are experienced and good at the job.


I wonder how many reasonably competent people shifted to things like DoorDash or Amazon Flex just to control their schedules. I see so many more drivers picking up now when I go get takeout. The few times that I've ordered through Grub Hub or whatever, the drivers looked pretty clean in decent cars. We've also got groceries doing delivery now.

From the handful of service industry friends I've talked to, unemployment didn't make up for missing paychecks.
This post was edited on 5/3/21 at 2:57 am
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22291 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 2:57 am to
Holy shite what a gig, jealous for sure

Can you not practice law in MT, Counselor?
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56518 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 3:03 am to
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Can you not practice law in MT, Counselor?



Eh, I'll think about it. I'd rather frick around for a year and feel like I'm 23 again.
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22291 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 3:10 am to
frick yeah!
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56518 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 3:12 am to
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Link?



It could be one of either Spanish Peaks Mountain Club or Yellowstone Club - I'm not gonna say which.
Posted by WylieTiger
Member since Nov 2006
14366 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:14 am to
Where are you in MT? What resort?
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56518 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:15 am to
I'm not moving for another three weeks or so, but I'll be in Big Sky.
Posted by John_V
SELA
Member since Oct 2018
2030 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:20 am to
THE INVESTIGATORS: An audit reveals the Louisiana Workforce Commission paid millions of dollars in unemployment funds to prisoners over the last year.

The audit, released Monday shows the agency responsible for handling unemployment funds gave out more than $6 million in benefits to 1,195 inmates who did not qualify for the program. WAFB Channel 9

Our dumba## state was even paying incarcerated people $5k to not work the last few months lol Idk how y'all can pay taxes to these idiots who can't even correctly give money away....
Posted by jallem33
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2006
40 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:35 am to
The Real Impact of The Perfect Storm
• Tax Returns
• Stimulus Checks
• Unemployment Benefits

How are these 3 things going to impact business over the next 5 months in this already challenging COVID-19 market?

Prepared by Frank Pastorino – Market Vice President Employbridge

#1 - Impacts of Unemployment Benefits

• Currently, workers who were making $15 per hour are collecting 60% of their wages via unemployment benefits = $360 per week

• $360 per week plus an extra $300 per week in Stimulus benefits for a total of $660 net each week through September 2021.

• Workers also get a tax break of paying no taxes on the first $10,500 (16 weeks of tax free money).

This means the average person collecting unemployment will be earning the equivalent of a pre-tax wage of $21.50 per hour by staying home.

#2 - Impacts of Stimulus payments

• The latest round of stimulus approved on March 11, 2021 gives each person making under $75,000 per year a lump sum of $1,400 for themselves or $2800 for couples and an additional $1,400 for each child or dependent. This will further incentivize unemployed workers to stay home rather than return to the workforce. A family of 4 will receive $5600 in a one lump sum payment.

• This is equivalent to a month’s net pay for a couple making $100k per year.

• This is also equivalent to $267 in weekly net income over 5 months (equaling $8.68 pre- tax
hourly wages)

• A company’s culture and benefits may help to retain personnel but to attract a reliable and capable workforce, the wages offered must be competitive. Right now, that means competing with unemployment and stimulus money even more than it means competing with other opportunities available to hourly workers. It will “Pay” to be unemployed.

#3 – Tax Returns
• In the most recent data provided by the IRS; In 2018 the average tax refund for earnings in the $25,000 - $49,999 income bracket in 2018 was $2,608.20.

That is equivalent to roughly 6 weeks of net pay for a $15hr worker.

LINK

• This is equal to pretax wages of $4.04 per hour or $161.45 per week over a 5 month period.

Adding it all up

Per week over a 5 month period – March to September

• Weekly Unemployment- = $660
• Stimulus check for a family of 4 = $267
• Tax Return refund = $161

Total weekly after tax income = $1,088

How does all of this break down to an hourly pre-tax wage?

• Unemployment $21.50
• Stimulus check $8.68
• Tax-refund $4.04

• Total equivalent pre-tax wages to stay on unemployment for the next 5 months = $34.22
Posted by WylieTiger
Member since Nov 2006
14366 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:38 am to
That place is awesome in winter and summer. I'm jealous. I'd move there yesterday.
Posted by drfeelgood
Member since Jun 2007
3378 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:56 am to
Just saw a post from a local restaurant that they will be closed on Mondays due to “an unprecedented National labor shortage”.

They will be closed to interview and train new hires (if lucky).

Literally, everyone is hiring, and it’s a shame the amount of people filling out apps only to turn the job down bc they only applied to show they were looking for a job to keep getting unemployment.

This should be prosecuted as fraud, but our government wants people reliant on them to have more control over the sheep. The current UE benefits do not expire until September, so expect things to get worse.
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
16825 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 5:17 am to
This is all to help the government bring in UBI. The more people that depend on the government, the more government expands. Sad really.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
73136 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 5:54 am to
A LOT of repair companies I know have turned to paying shop labor under the table just to get them to work. Thing is they collect full unemployment and get paid. Then they are making more than the skilled labor. So it's causing issues.
Posted by Bigfishchoupique
Member since Jul 2017
9450 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 6:06 am to
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Get what you pay for.


Not necessarily. I find that you “pay for what you get”.

Years ago I would pay simple labor 12 instead of 10 to try to motivate them. 10 dollar people are 10 dollar people.
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
14892 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 6:08 am to
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Many of us in Houma are trying to get work release inmates as we can


Hate that your business be the victim of the crimes they commit that land them back in jail.
This post was edited on 5/3/21 at 6:32 am
Posted by Wildcat In Germany
Metro Atlanta
Member since May 2017
3094 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 6:12 am to
Here in metro Atlanta it's the same situation. The few cooks that we have where I work are working 7 or 8 days in a row at a successful business that has been open for almost 30 years. Everyone working us exhausted.
This post was edited on 5/3/21 at 6:14 am
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
21778 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 6:23 am to
I saw some paying people to come in for interview
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
98732 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 6:33 am to
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Hate that your business be the victim of the crimes they commit that land them back in jail.



Work release inmates are still in jail
This post was edited on 5/3/21 at 6:34 am
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
20611 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 6:39 am to
I’m trying to fill 2 positions at $16/hr and can’t get people to show up. As long as their bills are paid, there is a large segment of the workforce that just doesn’t give a shite about trying to do anything more because they think those jobs will be there when/if the government stops paying the extra benefits
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23308 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 6:48 am to
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Hate to be that guy, but maybe, just maybe, if you’d pay them more than 7.25 a fricking hour they’d work.



This is just ignorant. Most jobs are already paying $10, $12, $15/ hour unless it’s something like a neighborhood grocery store stock boy. As said servers make money on tips, if you are a decent server right now you should be making $25/ hour in tips on night shifts due to the increase in tables from lack of staff. Some are probably making $50/ hour fairly easily. Problem is waitstaff hours are only 4-6 hour shifts usually, harder to make good money working 25% less hours then someone working 40 hours.

2ndly, it’s due to a major swing in labor cost. Labor cost is a huge portion of many restaurants and business’s operation expenses. You increase labor by 25% and they may have to increase food cost by 50%. People are complaining those $12 burgers are now $16 already. This is why. People are complaining about the 3% CC fee, this is why.

I don’t know the solution, I went out to eat yesterday for a bday party at a shite restaurant and paid $15 for a shite burger and horrible service, we were there for 2.5 hours. They were on an hour wait at 4:30 due to a major staff shortage and we left at 7pm. Terrible
This post was edited on 5/3/21 at 6:50 am
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