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re: Scientific American: Fat is not the problem-Fat stigma is

Posted on 7/10/19 at 4:31 pm to
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 7/10/19 at 4:31 pm to
Thankfully, it is just an opinion piece but it really had no business being in "Scientific" American.
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
26227 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 4:34 pm to
quote:

fat-phobia


I hate the way we misuse "phobia." No one is scared of fatties.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14937 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 4:54 pm to
I don't think its self loathing, its a sedentary life style and love of sugar.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 7/10/19 at 5:14 pm to
For frick's sake
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 7/10/19 at 5:25 pm to
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Aimee is a mammoth shocker there


ISWYDT
Posted by FatBoy62
Arkansas
Member since May 2018
783 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 5:41 pm to
I'm fat and that whole article is bullshite. Boils down to calories in calories out. I blame it on beer tasting so freaking good.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 7/10/19 at 6:31 pm to
They abandoned actual science years ago.

When Obama tried to take away mammogram access, they argued that it was "sound science" because a false positive on a mammogram results in unnecessary chemotherapy. (Those scientific experts seem blissfully unaware that a positive on a mammogram actually results in further testing.)

Posted by thedisciple315
Albany, NY
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 7/10/19 at 6:42 pm to
Scientific-American... is that what nerds insist we call them now?
This post was edited on 7/10/19 at 6:43 pm
Posted by Ricardo
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Posted on 7/10/19 at 6:45 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/14/20 at 11:10 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 7/10/19 at 7:33 pm to
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If they are shamed into losing weight and making better diet choices, they should thank everyone for the additional 15 years of life.


The problem with that train of thought is shaming rarely works to dissuade addictive behavior. Whether it is smoking, eating, gambling, drugs, sex, etc the stress and anxiety brought on by shaming tends to drive them farther into their addiction.

That said there is a difference between a "you do you" message and giving the impression being morbidly obese, smoking 3 packs a day or spending your life nodding on dope is healthy and OK.
Posted by Hoops
LA
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 7/10/19 at 7:37 pm to
Shaming produces more positive results than telling them it’s ok to be how they are though
Posted by PipelineBaw
TX
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 7/10/19 at 7:39 pm to
I'm on the opposite side of thinking with this guy. I make it a point to shame my fat coworkers about their weight. I think being obese is far too accepted in today's world. Probably why I'll never be able to work in the office, though.
This post was edited on 7/10/19 at 7:40 pm
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
151002 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 7:40 pm to
Eh, as with everything its nuanced. Some people respond to getting "tough love" and being given a swift kick in the arse. Some just dont. Its about finding the right motivation for each individual

But we obviously shouldn't be doing this garbage and actively promote unhealthy lifestyles. Cause we shouldn't
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17836 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 8:00 pm to
I guess this is one of the reasons that health providers are keyed in on Metabolic Sydrome rather than specifically obesity. Of course fixing obesity usually takes care of the rest of the symptoms.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 8:05 pm to
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it’s not “obesity” that damages people. It’s fearmongering about their bodies that puts them at risk for diabetes, heart disease, discrimination, bullying, eating disorders, sedentariness, lifelong discomfort in their bodies, and even early death.





My brain can't even comprehend this level of idiocy
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 7/10/19 at 8:09 pm to
How does normalizing morbid obesity help anyone?
Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 7/10/19 at 8:15 pm to
quote:

Linda Bacon, PhD, is a scientist, author, and speaker with three graduate degrees in weight-related science


quote:

Amee Severson, RD, is a Registered Dietitian Nutritionist whose work focuses on body positivity, fat acceptance, and intuitive eating through a social justice lens.


You know, I'm okay with this. Before people would just put their credentials, and people would say "see a Dr. said....", reporting the bias,lean, or whatever is honest reporting.

I mean, every group wants to feel that they are okay, they want to read stuff that supports them. I get it, like a Vanderbilt football writer has to make them seem poised to be a contender every year. Its business, not personal.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 8:19 pm to
I don't think anybody should be shamed for being fat. I think everyone should be treated with respect. However, part of being a respectable adult means you can face facts. If you wanna be obese and face long-term consequence for it, fine. But ignoring the health implications and burying our heads in the sand about obesity helps no one.

You can be body positive and still want to lose weight. In fact, if you love yourself you should want to be healthy and remain healthy for may years to come.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 8:38 pm to
Leftists ruined Scientific American about 30 years ago
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85505 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 8:45 pm to
quote:

Thankfully, it is just an opinion piece but it really had no business being in "Scientific" American.


But it’s an opinion piece by supposed experts in the field. This is amazing stuff right here. There’s really nothing too idiotic for a SJW to argue, as long as it creates a victim.
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