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re: Scientific American: Fat is not the problem-Fat stigma is

Posted on 7/10/19 at 3:05 pm to
Posted by fillmoregandt
OTM
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 7/10/19 at 3:05 pm to
not to get in a finger pointing contest, but telling people it’s okay to be obese is a bigger problem people being self-conscious of their weight.



Fat shaming saves lives. Not being a fat-enabler
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 3:05 pm to
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it’s not “obesity” that damages people. It’s fearmongering about their bodies that puts them at risk for diabetes, heart disease, discrimination, bullying, eating disorders, sedentariness, lifelong discomfort in their bodies, and even early death.


That's just science.

Of course a tiny man and a fat woman would push that BS.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 3:06 pm to
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, it’s not “obesity” that damages people. It’s fearmongering about their bodies that puts them at risk for diabetes, heart disease,

Wait.............wut?
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
7692 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 3:06 pm to
I mean, I get what they are trying to say is that bullying can send some people into a cycle of self loathing.

That is still a separate thing from obesity kills.

Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 3:07 pm to
Lol. A fat dietician. She must suck at her job.

And the other one focuses on dietary issues "through the lens of social justice".... wtf

And to address their absurd claims: actually, being a lardass leads DIRECTLY to diabetes, heart disease, osteoarthritis, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, and decreased life expectancy among many other medical issues. It quite literally increases morbidity and mortality across the board.

Saying "don't stigmatize them, its ok for them to be fat and it won't hurt them" is dangerous and flies in the face of over a century of medical science that proves obesity is fricking horrible for patient health and should be addressed.

Tl,dr: these two dykes are quacks and cannot be taken seriously
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
64019 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 3:08 pm to
Sound like a science denier. It's really sad when something as objective as science has become politicized.

...and here's the omnipotent race card:

quote:

This hierarchy of bodies is nothing new, with roots in racism, slavery and every other attempt to rank bodies.
This post was edited on 7/10/19 at 3:10 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 7/10/19 at 3:09 pm to
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And the other one focuses on dietary issues "through the lens of social justice"


It's both funny and sad that you can get paid for this kind of work.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64652 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 3:10 pm to
quote:

not to get in a finger pointing contest, but telling people it’s okay to be obese is a bigger problem people being self-conscious of their weight.



Fat shaming saves lives. Not being a fat-enabler



I'd bet my life savings the fat author wouldn't date an obese man.


I would have included the other author but....
Posted by Geauxboy
NW Arkansas
Member since Oct 2006
4856 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 3:11 pm to
So when these fatasses die, will the coroners report say "vilified" as cause of death?
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26689 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 3:19 pm to
Yeah, you make think stuffing your face with butter and sugar is hurting your health, but its actually the people telling you not to do this which is giving you your Diabetes.

quote:

Amee Severson, RD, is a Registered Dietitian Nutritionist whose work focuses on body positivity, fat acceptance, and intuitive eating through a social justice lens

"I was taught how a proper diet is supposed to work before my inner SJW came out and turned me into a fricking retard"

Blows my mind how why the scientific community doesn't call these people out more often. They're the equivalent of anti-vaxxers.

You want to be proud and happy about your obesity, fine. Its your body. But this "healthy at every size" bullshite is absolutely asinine and is actually pretty damaging.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 7/10/19 at 3:20 pm to
I honestly jumped back when I scrolled down and this picture popped up.
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Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25961 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 3:24 pm to
I wouldn't be surprised if some of their points have merit, but they're going to lose a lot of people by focusing this as a social justice crusade and saying that being fat doesn't cause bad health.


Check out this gem:
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Focusing on weight—or health behaviors—puts the burden on the individual, deflecting attention from the more pernicious problem: systemic injustice.


Of course it's not the individual's fault and they can do nothing to help themselves...it's the system's fault! Society did this to me!

And the following sentence is nearly as good:
quote:

Conditions in the places where people live, work, and play affect health outcomes to a much larger degree than health behaviors, which, all told (including eating, activity and other behaviors), account for less than 25 percent of differences in health outcomes


Less than 25% tells me it is nearly 25% of the difference. So, making life changes can cause a 25% improvement in health outcomes.

Funny that they don't mention "significant differences" when dancing around the science as well. Even if the p-values aren't significant, a 25% change in something is a big deal.


This post was edited on 7/10/19 at 3:31 pm
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20557 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 3:30 pm to
Hard to believe there are a few posters on this very board that completely agree with that line of thinking and will vote that way.
Posted by Pepperoni
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Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 7/10/19 at 3:30 pm to
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Authors: Linda BACON

ISWYD

Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85505 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 3:37 pm to
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Focusing on weight—or health behaviors—puts the burden on the individual, deflecting attention from the more pernicious problem: systemic injustice. Conditions in the places where people live, work, and play affect health outcomes to a much larger degree than health behaviors, which, all told (including eating, activity and other behaviors), account for less than 25 percent of differences in health outcomes. While health behavior change is valuable, to truly improve public health, we can work harder to create an inclusive society where everyone feels valued and has the opportunity to create a good life for themselves. Combating fat-phobia needs to be part of that agenda.


This could be an Onion parody.
Posted by link
Member since Feb 2009
19946 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 3:37 pm to
female, 34 years of age, 5'2", 310 lbs, apparent heart attack

cause of death: fearmongered to death by the patriarchy
Posted by Richard Flagget
Member since Mar 2018
394 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 3:48 pm to
As a current student of physical therapy, this enrages me.
Posted by Redbone
between St. Amant and Port Vincent
Member since Sep 2012
20738 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 4:17 pm to
quote:

Fat is not the problem-Fat stigma is
Posted by LSUJuice
Back in Houston
Member since Apr 2004
18053 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 4:22 pm to
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t’s not “obesity” that damages people. It’s fearmongering about their bodies that puts them at risk for diabetes

No, it's obesity
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19793 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 4:29 pm to
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This hierarchy of bodies is nothing new, with roots in racism, slavery and every other attempt to rank bodies.


fricking Christ. So being fat is the result of racism now?
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