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re: School shootings all have one thing in common…

Posted on 12/17/24 at 6:31 am to
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
69632 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 6:31 am to
is this the latest copy and paste reasoning for taking away the 2A from Reddit and DU?
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11290 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 6:32 am to
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Pretty soon we’ll be the same way. They’re pricing ammunition out of the common man’s hands.

Besides, no one is grabbing a gun and standing up for what’s right and stopping the politics going on in the country. You sit down and eat what they give you. I don’t see anyone in masses going to the White House and protesting to fix and cheapen healthcare, auto insurance, taxes, etc. so your excuse is a bit out of reach. Nice thought though!



Supporting the private ownership of firearms by suggesting its needed to protect one's self from the government is a fantasy. No government agency is overly concerned with guns in the hands of citizens, not in the US. All it takes is for the state to claim they suspect you of a crime and everyone you know and everyone in your community will support the state removing you from their midst. The fact is we have the right to own guns, Thats enough. We do not need any other reason to do so, certainly not justifying it by veiled threats against the state because the state is not remotely concerned with such threats....they will squash that silliness with an alarming velocity and everyone involved but not eliminated will support them in their actions. If the state were concerned with such threats we wouldn't have guns.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
76597 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 6:37 am to
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My guns have not killed anyone, shocker I know.


If guns kill people, then pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk, and spoons make people fat.
Posted by slinger1
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2017
127 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 6:46 am to
100%
Posted by Metariemobtiger
Mobile
Member since Aug 2019
537 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 6:46 am to
I could be wrong but the eye test tells me that they haven’t even sniffed a pussy before.
That’s the problem..
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10681 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 6:54 am to
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I usually see mentally ill, beta, trans, or gamers.

Lolz. Beta definitely belongs in there. We all know it’s the big dog alpha bros like you who make the world turn.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
16536 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 6:55 am to
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I usually see mentally ill, beta, trans, or gamers


Yep seems to me it's typically the socially awkward kids who stay in their room all day gaming or some such and get picked on by their peers. One could say bad parenting is a part of that and I would not necessarily disagree.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
39612 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 6:58 am to
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If you cant see the main issue is that America is a country of around 370 million people but also a country with around 400 million guns- you arent just part of the problem, you ARE the problem.


Said every goose-stepping, authoritarian government in modern history.
Posted by eatpie
Kentucky
Member since Aug 2018
1438 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 7:04 am to
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America isnt the only country where stuff like this happens- but it’s BY FAR the only country where it happens with regularity


OK, now do stabbings/knives in other countries.

It doesn't occur regularly in the USA. Far more kids are killed/injured in school bus crashes annually than by school shootings. If your goal is zero kids dying, start by banning kids in automobiles/buses.

But guns are scary...

Can school security be strengthened without making them impossible to function? A little bit, yes.

If we did every conceivable security measure to schools- you will still not eliminate these incidents.

Here is the most secure solution: Build a double wall with barbed wire on top around every school, 25 feet between the walls with a moat with sharks and child eating pitbull dogs running the banks. Let the students/staff/supplies in one time, at the beginning of the school year, and no one enters or exits until the end of the school year unless strip searched and escorted. No pointy objects that could be fashioned into shivs.
This post was edited on 12/17/24 at 7:07 am
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
8729 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 7:14 am to
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get picked on by their peers


I'm sure this is a much more common denominator regardless of other social/lifestyle factors.

There were 2 gun incidents at my (small suburban NW Florida) high school back in the early 90s that fortunately just ended with threats.

Both of those were simply the kid that gets picked on all the time finally snapping.

Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
80128 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 7:16 am to
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Is it the dick on the rapist or is it the rapist? Let’s cut off all dicks of all men because some piece of shite men use their dicks to rape people.


Don’t give Democrats the idea
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
46016 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 7:18 am to
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gun rights come with a costs

And that cost is the embedding of individual responsibility into children at every stage of their development - at every level, including parents, teachers, law enforcement, friends, and people in general.

When I was a kid back in the 40s, I was taught at every level to not act like a dumbass. And nobody thought they were 'doing something' that they didn't want to do - it was as natural as eating or sleeping - everyone did it. 'Enforcing' it was a societal reflex, not an item on a 'to do' list.

We have abandoned the expectation of individual responsibility from our 'raising the next generation' list of requirements.

And we have developed legions of idiotic human garbage that has to be watched at all times.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
32885 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 7:21 am to
Wow! I'll bet you pondered this all night and then you had your Eureka !!!!! moment
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281857 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 7:23 am to
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gun rights come with a costs


You meant responsibility.
quote:


Researchers at the University of Pittsburgh teamed up with the Pittsburgh Police Department in 2016 to look at almost 900 firearms recovered from crime scenes in 2008. They found the criminals connected to these firearms did not legally possess them in 80 percent of the cases.

A study from the University of Chicago looked at 99 inmates at the Cook County Jail in Chicago in 2015. It found only about 3 percent of inmates who used a gun bought it at a gun store.


Legal gun owners commit very little crime. Criminals do not obey laws.

You can scream all you want, but maybe learn the facts first.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
14431 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 7:24 am to
Real bullying kept shootings down.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
17775 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 7:45 am to
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No one has ever set off a nuclear bomb at a school. Is that because everyone in the United States has perfect mental health, or is it because no one has access to a nuclear bomb?



Where do you morons come from?


Two school buildings were completely destroyed in Hiroshima too.
Posted by theliontamer
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
1385 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 7:53 am to
I'm not a gun owner (not against it, just don't have one), but it seems like in this day and age we need to start blaming the parents for giving their 12-17 year old kid access to guns. It really doesn't seem that hard to have a reliable gun safe.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
17775 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 7:53 am to
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No government agency is overly concerned with guns in the hands of citizens, not in the US.



You would be very much wrong. Typical uneducated drivel spouted by those that don't know anything beyond what their TV tells them though. Every government agency in the US, Federal, State, and Tribal has gone through threat assessment exercises and the fact that US citizens are not only extremely well armed but that there is also a significant population of former and active military members that are not exactly loyal to authoritarian government mindsets is troubling to them.
Posted by CrappyPants
Member since Apr 2021
907 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 7:56 am to
Its:

-Poor Parenting
-Social Media
-Glorifying mentally ill things like changing genders
-Kids that don't get their arse beat or are afraid of authority
-Kids not getting enough outside activity. Glue to their computers and phones
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
39811 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 8:06 am to
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Its:

-Poor Parenting
-Social Media
-Glorifying mentally ill things like changing genders
-Kids that don't get their arse beat or are afraid of authority
-Kids not getting enough outside activity. Glue to their computers and phones


Don’t forget medication of prepubescent kids and therapy
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