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Posted on 2/8/26 at 8:43 am to Sunnyvale
In trump we trust. Meanwhile the family twists in the wind.
Posted on 2/8/26 at 9:22 am to Tiger Ryno
What’s the end game here
So you kidnap an old lady and she dies you get nothing out of it
You want payment to return her but eventually you probably will get caught
Has to be the son in law trying to cover up his murder
So you kidnap an old lady and she dies you get nothing out of it
You want payment to return her but eventually you probably will get caught
Has to be the son in law trying to cover up his murder
Posted on 2/8/26 at 9:24 am to nicholastiger
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eventually you probably will get caught
The only way they don't get caught is if they took her across the border into Mexico. If they are still in the US, they are screwed. May not be today, next week, or even next month, but eventually they will be.
Posted on 2/8/26 at 9:25 am to nicholastiger
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Has to be the son in law trying to cover up his murder
I lean this way... something unfortunate happened and the sis/hus combo freaked out and made a bad situation worse. Maybe not murder, but covering up an accident or negligence.
Posted on 2/8/26 at 9:32 am to SallysHuman
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Maybe not murder, but covering up an accident or negligence.
I don't know the info, but for the pacemaker syncing with the app on her phone. Do they have the actual data or do they just know the two were in contact?
Meaning, could something have happened when she was dropped off and the pacemaker continued syncing with the phone and the cops not know that she was deceased at that point?
e.g. Something bad happened at 10 when she was dropped off, whomever was involved left and came back at 2am to "cleanup" and stage everything?
Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:09 am to Lsut81
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Meaning, could something have happened when she was dropped off and the pacemaker continued syncing with the phone and the cops not know that she was deceased at that point?
I don’t think so. The whole point of synching with the phone is so the app can keep track of the heart beat/rate. If she died and her heart stopped, that would have to register on the app. Otherwise, what’s the point? Being physically separated from the phone would register as a different type of in-synching. Right? If not, again, what’s the point of the app?
Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:12 am to Hot Carl
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that would have to register on the app.
But do they have the actual data from the app or just that the pacemaker was synced/in range?
ETA...
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A pacemaker does not necessarily stop syncing with a phone or home monitoring device immediately upon a person's death. It will continue to function and send electrical signals, as well as attempt to transmit recorded data, until the battery dies or it is deactivated by a professional.
This post was edited on 2/8/26 at 10:16 am
Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:29 am to Lsut81
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But do they have the actual data from the app or just that the pacemaker was synced/in range?
Ahh, gotcha. Not sure, but I would think. They have her phone. I’m sure the kids/grandkids know her passcode, if she even has one. If not, it was probably a birthday that was easy to guess. They aren’t telling us everything they know, but the sheriff’s lips are loose enough that he’d have mentioned if they were struggling to gain access to the phone. UNLESS, the app indicates she died that night, they’ve known she was dead this whole time, and the 1st video from the kids was just theater in an attempt to get more information to capture the perps.
But I don’t believe that. I think there was legit optimism in that 1st video. The one yesterday? Not so much. I agree with you that they’re resigned to the fact that she’s dead, and are just trying to recover her body so they can give her a proper burial.
Back to the sheriff, I don’t know if any of what you guys are watching mentioned this, but the show I watched/listened to last night (Surviving the Survivor) got word that he was at the Arizona basketball game last night while they were at Annie’s house taking pictures. They fricking roasted that poor bastard. And they had some heavy hitters on the panel last night, which made it worse. A lot of “wtf is going on?”
Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:31 am to Tiger Ryno
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In trump we trust. Meanwhile the family twists in the wind.
it was probably obama and his goons who kidnapped her.
Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:31 am to Hot Carl
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I don’t think so. The whole point of synching with the phone is so the app can keep track of the heart beat/rate. If she died and her heart stopped, that would have to register on the app. Otherwise, what’s the point? Being physically separated from the phone would register as a different type of in-synching. Right? If not, again, what’s the point of the app?
Until you turn a pacemaker off it will keep firing on pace even if the person is deceased. You have to use a magnet to turn it off...so the short answer is if the app is used just to make sure the pacing is happening normally it will register that it is firing normally til it is turned off.
Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:33 am to Hot Carl
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got word that he was at the Arizona basketball game last night while they were at Annie’s house taking pictures
Believe it was the Feds that were at the house, but still a bad look. Dude has fumbled this from the start with returning the house to the family after only 24hrs.
Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:36 am to Tigahs24Seven
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Until you turn a pacemaker off it will keep firing on pace even if the person is deceased. You have to use a magnet to turn it off...so the short answer is if the app is used just to make sure the pacing is happening normally it will register that it is firing normally til it is turned off.
But surely it can detect the difference when the heart stops beating and transmit that data. Unless the data is only used to potentially make adjustments by the cardiologist and there is no “emergency” function to it.
Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:42 am to Hot Carl
If somehow I am kidnapped 80 yrs old I hope my family is smart enough not to pay $6MM.
I had a good life. Keep the money and buy some security.
I am perfectly fine dying and not costing my family large sums of money. Paying that is ridiculous for a 84 yr old person.
I had a good life. Keep the money and buy some security.
I am perfectly fine dying and not costing my family large sums of money. Paying that is ridiculous for a 84 yr old person.
Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:42 am to Hot Carl
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Back to the sheriff, I don’t know if any of what you guys are watching mentioned this, but the show I watched/listened to last night (Surviving the Survivor) got word that he was at the Arizona basketball game last night while they were at Annie’s house taking pictures. They fricking roasted that poor bastard. And they had some heavy hitters on the panel last night, which made it worse. A lot of “wtf is going on?”
Help me understand the basis for the outrage? Is it outrage on behalf of the family?
The “not a good look” argument that I’ve read/heard some people make seems similar to the outrage when Ted Cruz was seen at an airport when local temperatures were expected to be freezing.
I suppose there should be moments when elected leaders need to be on lockdown so as not to upset easily triggered people?
Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:55 am to HailToTheChiz
First deadline was Friday and the second deadline is Monday (tomorrow)
Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:57 am to Willie Stroker
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I suppose there should be moments when elected leaders need to be on lockdown so as not to upset easily triggered people?
There would be nothing said about him doing that if this were a random old lady who was missing.
This post was edited on 2/8/26 at 10:58 am
Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:58 am to Hot Carl
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A pacemaker will generally continue to operate and send electrical signals for a period after death, often appearing "normal" to connected apps or monitoring systems even though the heart is no longer responding. While the physical device keeps functioning, it cannot pace a dead heart, and the app will stop transmitting once the phone is disconnected or the device's battery dies.
Nope.
Posted on 2/8/26 at 11:34 am to SallysHuman
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something unfortunate happened and the sis/hus combo freaked out and made a bad situation worse
This was my theory from the beginning. They were there taking some stuff they felt entitled to because Savannah is well off but doesn’t share. Granny confronts them, they smack her around, she is either hurt badly or dies and they panic. Then bury her in the desert somewhere.
Or she fell asleep in her closet under some laundry and they just can’t find her.
Posted on 2/8/26 at 11:34 am to Tigahs24Seven
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Nope
Actually, an implanted pacemaker will continue to “pace” the heart even if the patient is deceased.
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