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re: Roll Call: Who’s going to the St Tammany Parish Council Meeting tonight?

Posted on 4/7/22 at 10:13 am to
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41196 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 10:13 am to
Covington proper had fewer than 15,000 people as recently as 2005. I remember the sign crossing into downtown Covington every morning.

I guess a 12,000 person town is good size, but it essentially doubled overnight and the general metro area has essentially merged with Mandeville and madisonville making it damn near 3 times the size it was less than 20 years ago.

Covington and Mandeville were small towns. Not so much any more.
Posted by Roberteaux
mandeville
Member since Sep 2009
6206 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 10:15 am to
quote:

Can we at least start by only opening the bridge on the hour instead of every 30 mins? The boaters can wait or plan around it.


I'm pretty sure they just started doing this
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
21786 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 10:20 am to
They're dropping 200-1000 home subdivisions all over Livingston. You'd think after getting flooded in 2016 they'd rein it in but they're full speed ahead.
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
19752 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 10:27 am to
Bruh driving through Covington/Madisonville on 12 is more frustrating than Baton Rouge at this point. No fcking reason for traffic to come to a dead stop for a long period of time in a place of that size.
Posted by Rust
Member since Feb 2019
1040 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 10:42 am to
It’s getting bad down Ronald Reagan. They’re about to build more apartments next to those DSLD houses in Oak Alley and more and more trees are being cleared out along a two way road for more housing all the way to 1077.
But I’m sure the traffic and flooding will be just fine
Posted by kcpizzle
Member since Mar 2022
609 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 11:21 am to
Right. And you can't blame the developers, they are making money hand over fist. As long as there is a lack of restrictions, they will keep building.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41196 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 11:34 am to
Is anyone actually blaming the developers? It seems like most people are blaming government agencies that are rubber stamping the developments and rubber stamping the traffic studies that show a two lane highway that is already at a stand still during the morning and evening can handle an additional 200-1,000 houses with one entrance and exit.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
15842 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 11:37 am to
This is way overdue

They make these long range plans and they never work because it’s garbage in - garbage out and plans get bastardized by variances which create domino effect.

Cooper has his hands full on this one

I expect car bombs, snipers, and drive by’s

Posted by Zachary
Member since Jan 2007
1832 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 11:56 am to
Yet the proposed moratorium is only for 6 months. If it's worth doing (and it is), doing it for only 6 months accomplishes very little.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41196 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 11:58 am to
Doing so for 6 months almost makes this seem like it’s a temporary price hike on home prices.

How long do you think it should be? Should the moratorium be population based, ie if the population dips to below this level (kids moving out) new homes can be built?
Posted by Zachary
Member since Jan 2007
1832 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 12:02 pm to
In certain parts of the parish, already overrun by high-density, mow-down-every-tree-and-build-on-a-postage-stamp neighborhoods, it should be permanent.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
77751 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 12:02 pm to
quote:

How long do you think it should be? Should the moratorium be population based, ie if the population dips to below this level (kids moving out) new homes can be built?
Ten years. But, does this really limit new homes, or just homes on little lots?
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
20403 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 1:16 pm to
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Always funny to see the indignation of a bunch of post-Katrina transplants when they get their pitchforks out for overdevelopment and traffic as if they are not the direct cause of the problem.


That was over 15 years ago…
Posted by NOLALGD
Member since May 2014
2675 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

s anyone actually blaming the developers? It seems like most people are blaming government agencies that are rubber stamping the developments and rubber stamping the traffic studies that show a two lane highway that is already at a stand still during the morning and evening can handle an additional 200-1,000 houses with one entrance and exit.


Good point, and for the record gov't agencies aren't rubber stamping these developments, STP has very complicated codes and ordinances, but folks with big money and resources know how to run the gauntlet, pay for the right studies, and get council approval.

In addition to developers its old families with thousands of acres of land (that great-grandpa probably wanted to be rural forever) seeing the $$$ signs and selling to developers. Folks who for years said the gov't shouldn't tell me what to do with my property, and now twist the same argument to say the government shouldn't stop me from developing my property.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
119984 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 1:23 pm to
I'll probably go.. Depends on when the klan meeting ends.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40177 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 1:27 pm to
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If your direct ancestors were not in St. Tammany prior to 1922, piss off.


We don't want all those former St. Bernard people back, baw.

Y'all stuck with them.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40177 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 2:12 pm to
Maybe some of you NS people can help me understand.

When new residents move in, build new homes, create new retail shopping, spend their money in said retail establishments, etc...

All of this creates additional tax dollars.

Those tax dollars should be used to build new roads, schools, etc.

WTF is all that additional money being used for?

Also, in most places in the country, building new houses and especially new subdivisions requires the developer to install some roads, utilities, drainage etc so that the new development does not create any additional stress on the current systems.

Is that not required in St. Slammany?

Maybe y'all need a moratorium on idiot politicians.
Posted by tigahbruh
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2014
2860 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 2:30 pm to
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Maybe some of you NS people can help me understand.

Roads, schools, etc aren't built without years of studies, planning, etc no matter where you live in the country.
Takes longer than putting in a clear cut new subdivision. ...unless you put temporary limits on new subdivisions

Of course the developers build the roads utilities, drainage in the developments and connecting to main roads, but they don't build or widen public highways for tens of miles...anywhere. Or new bridges connecting different municipalities.

Drive around Baton Rouge and remember the 2016 flood. We are trying to avoid those things. (People off Hwy 22 already have BR level traffic).

Name a place in Louisiana that doesnt have idiot politicians. At least here, the citizenry is trying to take some power to reign it in and mitigate.
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 2:35 pm to
Ill be in the back ready to throw a chair.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40177 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

Roads, schools, etc aren't built without years of studies, planning, etc no matter where you live in the country.
Takes longer than putting in a clear cut new subdivision. ...unless you put temporary limits on new subdivisions

Of course the developers build the roads utilities, drainage in the developments and connecting to main roads, but they don't build or widen public highways for tens of miles...anywhere. Or new bridges connecting different municipalities


How is it then, in Katy, where I used to live, all the roads, etc are built FIRST then the subdivisions move in and fill out everything.

Also, you still didn't answer about where all the money is going.

This post was edited on 4/7/22 at 2:43 pm
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