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Research reveals Amber Alerts are mostly ineffective

Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:55 am
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
106022 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:55 am
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ResearchGate: How do you view the success of AMBER Alert since its inception in 1996?

Timothy Griffin: AMBER Alerts do certainly, in a sense, work. A minority of them assist in the recovery of abducted children. My latest dataset isn’t complete yet, but the success rate among all Alerts issued, as my colleagues and I measure it, will be, I estimate, around 20 percent.

There is always an element of uncertainty, of course, because it is impossible to know what “would have” happened in any given AMBER Alert case, had no Alert been issued. However, in my reading of the data, the number of children whose lives have been saved by AMBER Alert ranges from zero to something very close to zero.

RG: How did you reach this conclusion and what patterns emerged?

Griffin: I’ve personally examined media accounts of roughly 1,500 to 1,800 AMBER Alert cases and a number of patterns emerge:

These cases do not appear to typically involve apparently life-threatening abductors. Rather, they are far more often deployed in familial/custodial disputes and other cases not suggestive of life-threatening peril to the abducted child(ren).

Second, AMBER Alerts are most likely to end in a safe recovery when the abductor is related to the child(ren) and not likely to cause them harm.

RG: Doesn’t every child saved make the system worthwhile?

Griffin: In my reading of the data, there is very little evidence that AMBER Alerts have “life-saving” effects. The distinction between an AMBER Alert that assisted in recovering an abducted child or children, and an AMBER Alert that assisted in recovering a child/children from life-threatening circumstances, must be clear in the minds of those evaluating the system.

The vague and unprovable aphorism that the system is “worth it if it saves just one life” raises a number of questions, which my colleagues and I have explored in our research.

Normal police investigation resolves the overwhelming majority of child abduction cases. Anything—including an AMBER Alert and the flurry of subsequent calls made by the public — which could inhibit that investigative process needs to be evaluated objectively, based on evidence. Also, we need to verify that publicly disseminating the progress of a missing person search does not potentially assist the abductor, or even push them over the edge.



You're being needlessly disturbed by these things going off in the middle of the night and it's not even helping to recover missing kids.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33054 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:57 am to
Tldr

Is it because they typically send them out at 230am, so most people disable the alerts?
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45189 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:57 am to
They wake me up in middle of the night and the vehicle is believed to be in another state. I'm all for amber alerts but they could possibly target it a bit better.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:04 pm to
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They wake me up in middle of the night and the vehicle is believed to be in another state. I'm all for amber alerts but they could possibly target it a bit better.



This. Also, if it saves one child, I'm 100% okay with it bothering my sleep on rare occasion.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
62116 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:04 pm to
How much did this study cost, and did the government pay for it?
Posted by Ash Williams
South of i-10
Member since May 2009
18563 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:13 pm to
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AMBER Alerts are most likely to end in a safe recovery when the abductor is related to the child(ren) and not likely to cause them harm.


But how many times has the abductor received the amber alert or heard about it and decided "shite, now im never going to get away with this, I'm going to bring the kid back"

It may not result in others seeing the child and calling the police to give them a lead but id imagine it certainly works as a preventative measure once the alert goes out
This post was edited on 12/28/18 at 12:14 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
106022 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:19 pm to
The night I was woken out of a sound sleep in North Louisiana for a suspect traveling from New Orleans to Opelousas was the night I turned the damn things off.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:21 pm to
The succees rate is 20%. That means 1 out of every 5 is saved due to the Amber Alert. I’d like to see the overall success rate when dealing with child abductions and then judge the Amber Alert system. I would have to imagine the success rate is low. After a day or so, chances are you’re recovering a body.
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
8604 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:23 pm to
I’ve had mine turned off for several years now
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:26 pm to
I am all for anything to help, but these systems are just not working.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33887 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:41 pm to
If it helps recover 20% of kids safely ill happily be woken up by the Amber Alerts. frick you OP
Posted by LSUJuice
Back in Houston
Member since Apr 2004
18053 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:57 pm to
Clearly you didn't read the rest of the article
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 1:01 pm to
they should be limited to navigation systems and cell phones that are roaming, those are the people out and about that it needs to reach.

sending bob an alert message call while he is at home watching a movie does nothing to help
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
22281 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 1:02 pm to
I've always thought that they were just one step more effective than "thoughts and prayers".
Posted by Scooba
Member since Jun 2013
20027 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

the success rate among all Alerts issued ... I estimate, around 20 percent.


Worth it.

ETA: and for those complaining about not wanting the alerts, your phone is likely more than capable of opting out via settings.
This post was edited on 12/28/18 at 2:17 pm
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
41807 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 2:20 pm to
quote:

The succees rate is 20%. That means 1 out of every 5 is saved due to the Amber Alert.


It doesn't mean that at all.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
132603 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 2:23 pm to
My alerts are disabled sooooo

My Trump alerts are on though
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
5959 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 2:28 pm to
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This. Also, if it saves one child, I'm 100% okay with it bothering my sleep on rare occasion.





I would agree with this but it sounds like its more than likely being used to "save" a child who was with their father and his girlfriend and a disgruntled mother decided to frick them up metaphorically
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10476 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 2:28 pm to
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But how many times has the abductor received the amber alert or heard about it and decided "shite, now im never going to get away with this, I'm going to bring the kid back" 

It may not result in others seeing the child and calling the police to give them a lead but id imagine it certainly works as a preventative measure once the alert goes out


Also, even if the abductor is related to the child, it's still worth preventing an abduction.

Say your ex-wife lost all custody due to a drug problem, so she abducts your child. Is that not a scenario where you want the abduction over asap?

Also, parents don't necessarily know their child is in "safer" hands, they know the kid has been taken. That alone has to be traumatic.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
76771 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 2:30 pm to
hears a little amber to lighten things up

This post was edited on 12/28/18 at 2:31 pm
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