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Research reveals Amber Alerts are mostly ineffective
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:55 am
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:55 am
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You're being needlessly disturbed by these things going off in the middle of the night and it's not even helping to recover missing kids.
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ResearchGate: How do you view the success of AMBER Alert since its inception in 1996?
Timothy Griffin: AMBER Alerts do certainly, in a sense, work. A minority of them assist in the recovery of abducted children. My latest dataset isn’t complete yet, but the success rate among all Alerts issued, as my colleagues and I measure it, will be, I estimate, around 20 percent.
There is always an element of uncertainty, of course, because it is impossible to know what “would have” happened in any given AMBER Alert case, had no Alert been issued. However, in my reading of the data, the number of children whose lives have been saved by AMBER Alert ranges from zero to something very close to zero.
RG: How did you reach this conclusion and what patterns emerged?
Griffin: I’ve personally examined media accounts of roughly 1,500 to 1,800 AMBER Alert cases and a number of patterns emerge:
These cases do not appear to typically involve apparently life-threatening abductors. Rather, they are far more often deployed in familial/custodial disputes and other cases not suggestive of life-threatening peril to the abducted child(ren).
Second, AMBER Alerts are most likely to end in a safe recovery when the abductor is related to the child(ren) and not likely to cause them harm.
RG: Doesn’t every child saved make the system worthwhile?
Griffin: In my reading of the data, there is very little evidence that AMBER Alerts have “life-saving” effects. The distinction between an AMBER Alert that assisted in recovering an abducted child or children, and an AMBER Alert that assisted in recovering a child/children from life-threatening circumstances, must be clear in the minds of those evaluating the system.
The vague and unprovable aphorism that the system is “worth it if it saves just one life” raises a number of questions, which my colleagues and I have explored in our research.
Normal police investigation resolves the overwhelming majority of child abduction cases. Anything—including an AMBER Alert and the flurry of subsequent calls made by the public — which could inhibit that investigative process needs to be evaluated objectively, based on evidence. Also, we need to verify that publicly disseminating the progress of a missing person search does not potentially assist the abductor, or even push them over the edge.
You're being needlessly disturbed by these things going off in the middle of the night and it's not even helping to recover missing kids.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:57 am to Jim Rockford
Tldr
Is it because they typically send them out at 230am, so most people disable the alerts?
Is it because they typically send them out at 230am, so most people disable the alerts?
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:57 am to Jim Rockford
They wake me up in middle of the night and the vehicle is believed to be in another state. I'm all for amber alerts but they could possibly target it a bit better.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:04 pm to The Mick
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They wake me up in middle of the night and the vehicle is believed to be in another state. I'm all for amber alerts but they could possibly target it a bit better.
This. Also, if it saves one child, I'm 100% okay with it bothering my sleep on rare occasion.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:04 pm to Jim Rockford
How much did this study cost, and did the government pay for it?
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:13 pm to Jim Rockford
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AMBER Alerts are most likely to end in a safe recovery when the abductor is related to the child(ren) and not likely to cause them harm.
But how many times has the abductor received the amber alert or heard about it and decided "shite, now im never going to get away with this, I'm going to bring the kid back"
It may not result in others seeing the child and calling the police to give them a lead but id imagine it certainly works as a preventative measure once the alert goes out
This post was edited on 12/28/18 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:19 pm to Ash Williams
The night I was woken out of a sound sleep in North Louisiana for a suspect traveling from New Orleans to Opelousas was the night I turned the damn things off.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:21 pm to Jim Rockford
The succees rate is 20%. That means 1 out of every 5 is saved due to the Amber Alert. I’d like to see the overall success rate when dealing with child abductions and then judge the Amber Alert system. I would have to imagine the success rate is low. After a day or so, chances are you’re recovering a body.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:23 pm to Jim Rockford
I’ve had mine turned off for several years now
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:26 pm to Jim Rockford
I am all for anything to help, but these systems are just not working.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:41 pm to Jim Rockford
If it helps recover 20% of kids safely ill happily be woken up by the Amber Alerts. frick you OP
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:57 pm to Upperdecker
Clearly you didn't read the rest of the article
Posted on 12/28/18 at 1:01 pm to Jim Rockford
they should be limited to navigation systems and cell phones that are roaming, those are the people out and about that it needs to reach.
sending bob an alert message call while he is at home watching a movie does nothing to help
sending bob an alert message call while he is at home watching a movie does nothing to help
Posted on 12/28/18 at 1:02 pm to Jim Rockford
I've always thought that they were just one step more effective than "thoughts and prayers".
Posted on 12/28/18 at 2:15 pm to Jim Rockford
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the success rate among all Alerts issued ... I estimate, around 20 percent.
Worth it.
ETA: and for those complaining about not wanting the alerts, your phone is likely more than capable of opting out via settings.
This post was edited on 12/28/18 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 12/28/18 at 2:20 pm to DeafJam73
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The succees rate is 20%. That means 1 out of every 5 is saved due to the Amber Alert.
It doesn't mean that at all.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 2:23 pm to Jim Rockford
My alerts are disabled sooooo
My Trump alerts are on though
My Trump alerts are on though
Posted on 12/28/18 at 2:28 pm to Jester
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This. Also, if it saves one child, I'm 100% okay with it bothering my sleep on rare occasion.
I would agree with this but it sounds like its more than likely being used to "save" a child who was with their father and his girlfriend and a disgruntled mother decided to frick them up metaphorically
Posted on 12/28/18 at 2:28 pm to Ash Williams
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But how many times has the abductor received the amber alert or heard about it and decided "shite, now im never going to get away with this, I'm going to bring the kid back"
It may not result in others seeing the child and calling the police to give them a lead but id imagine it certainly works as a preventative measure once the alert goes out
Also, even if the abductor is related to the child, it's still worth preventing an abduction.
Say your ex-wife lost all custody due to a drug problem, so she abducts your child. Is that not a scenario where you want the abduction over asap?
Also, parents don't necessarily know their child is in "safer" hands, they know the kid has been taken. That alone has to be traumatic.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 2:30 pm to Jim Rockford
hears a little amber to lighten things up


This post was edited on 12/28/18 at 2:31 pm
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